Truth to varying degrees is found in each of the main world religions.
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no religion is the only truth, but truth is found in them all
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Truth to varying degrees is found in each of the main world religions.
Truthseeker
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I mostly agree. Scientology is an exception.
Truthseeker
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Disagree.
In a sense that is true. Some religions have a Prophet that reveals whatever is best considering the culture they are in, in my opinion.
Truthseeker
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I think you should make the distinction that some are writtten by men, but not all.
Brian2
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It is about half and half but most modern translations go with amongst you or in your midst.
In context Jesus was speaking to Pharisees and so would not be telling them that the Kingdom of God is inside them, they were the hypocritical enemies of the Kingdom of God.
Jesus said that before He came there was the Law and the prophets that were proclaimed and since John the Baptist there is the Kingdom of God being proclaimed.
The Kingdom came with Jesus and was not inside John the Baptist or any OT prophets, and they were not in the Kingdom of God.
The Kingdom of God is in the midst of the world because the citizens of the Kingdom live among the other people in the world and at the end of the age when Jesus returns He is going to set up His Kingdom on earth.
Brian2
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It is not really grammatically incorrect to say "within you" but in the context of Jesus speaking to the Pharisees, the Kingdom was not within them, and context can be everything in translation. And of course since Jesus was coming back to set up the Kingdom of God on earth.
Brian2
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I mostly agree. Scientology is an exception.
Even Scientology would have some truth in it. But of course it is the untruths in religions that distinguish them.
Even Humanist has truth in it and even the Chinese Communist Party has some truth in it.
Basically the OP is a misleading question. It is the revelation from God which is the right revelation.
I wouldn't conclude it was a cold, I'd conclude you had a headache and felt hot as per the data
muhammad_isa
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..so they knew about God, no more than you then?
..they were no more pious than you then?
I wonder why prophets were referred to as "sons of God" in the OT, if they were "just men".
Some men have a higher station than others ..
..and it is illogical to claim that a person is God.
God cannot be born, as He is Eternal. [truth]
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muhammad_isa
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Thanks Sun Rise. Just found this wonderful book on Amazon and added it to my digital library.
..like a mortal man being God, you mean?
I think the huge mistake made is that many worship the lamp (name & personality) and not the light. So when the light of truth appeared in Buddha or Muhammad, some still worshipped the lamp and thus deprived themselves of the truth in other religions.
Light is good in whatsoever lamp it is burning! A rose is beautiful in whatsoever garden it may bloom! A star has the same radiance if it shines from the East or from the West. Be free from prejudice, so will you love the Sun of Truth from whatsoever point in the horizon it may arise! You will realize that if the Divine light of truth shone in Jesus Christ it also shone in Moses and in Buddha. (Abdu’l-Baha)
RestlessSoul
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Brian2
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..so they knew about God, no more than you then?
..they were no more pious than you then?
I wonder why prophets were referred to as "sons of God" in the OT, if they were "just men".
Some men have a higher station than others ..
..and it is illogical to claim that a person is God.
God cannot be born, as He is Eternal. [truth]
Yes many people know more about God than I do and are more pious than I am, but that does not make them divine in any way.
Angels are called sons of God in the OT and some people are called sons of God and that seems to refer to their roles. Certainly more people than the Baha'i Messengers in the OT are called sons of God. Nothing to do with them being divine. I don't even know if Abraham and Moses and Noah are called sons of God.
God (the Father) has a Son whose source of life is His Father and who has been with His Father forever and through whom God created all things. This Son is equal in all things with His Father and when He was sent to become a man for our sake and our salvation, He took a body and was conceived in a virgin. This Son is the same nature and essence as His Father and when He became a man He was not just the Son of God but also the Son of man.
So yes, God is eternal but the truth of what the Bible tells us happened shows how and why God the only Son could be born as a man.
John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
Brian2
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..like a mortal man being God, you mean?
That is one thing that distinguishes Christianity and Islam and any other faith.
The nature of death and the reason for life and the way to eternal life etc etc etc are other things.
This is true. Also, no single religion has the whole truth. All are only partially true.
muhammad_isa
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Funny that .. translations vary.
18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
However, much of John is not the saying of Jesus, but the saying of an anonymous author.
I would rather stick to the synoptics .. they do not make such opinionated claims.
i.e. do not have so-called "high Christology"
The philosophy I subscribe to has a saying. "Everyone has a piece of the truth". Or as it's put in another way, "Nobody is so stupid as to be wrong 100% of the time".
Actually, it's a theological perspective that changes "inside you", to be "among you" because that of the belief that it couldn't actually mean in you, as the Greek word entos is always translated in the Bible. "Make clean the inside of the cup first". Exact same word.
"Among you" or "in your midst" is not supported by the normal use of that word. It's only translated that way because the church teaches that God is external to you. That's not the word the gospel writers used however. I mean seriously, how many times does Paul say, "Christ in you"? Why is this an issue then, pray tell? If Christ is in you, isn't that the kingdom of God in you too??
Besides, how can God not be inside of us? Are you suggesting that God is not Infinite? If God is Infinite, everywhere at all times, than it's not possible for there to be gaps and holes where God is not, such as inside of us. As I like to ask, is God a block of Swiss cheese?
Of course not.
Trailblazer
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Scientology is not a religion.I mostly agree. Scientology is an exception.