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No Space Beyond Universe?

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Your question is nonsensical. Space is something inside the universe. There may be something outside the universe but it isn't space.
2 questions:
Define "universe".
How could you know this?

OK.....one wasn't a quesiton.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
No doubt, but I think the best you'll ever get is good evidence. In science, proof is generally taken to be a function of mathematics and logic.

Ah sorry, get confused on them two :eek:
 

Panda

42?
Premium Member
And I'm asking for proof of this.

Still you question makes no sense. You are wanting proof that what is inside the universe is different from what is outside the universe? If they were the same how could we make a distinction and call one the universe?
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
More useful:

1. the unlimited or incalculably great three-dimensional realm or expanse in which all material objects are located and all events occur.

2. the portion or extent of this in a given instance; extent or room in three dimensions: the space occupied by a body.

Both of these are applicable to whatever lies beyond the borders of our cosmos.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
There may be something outside the universe but it isn't space.

More universes. I think they're like soap bubbles and branch off. Maybe a black hole from another universe was the singularity that was the "big bang" (I hate that term) of this universe. And maybe every time a black hole forms in this universe, it's the singularity that creates another universe. Universes always "pinching one off". :slap:
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
"big bang" (I hate that term) of this universe.
Really? I adore it. Since I think the roth (Godiverses) reproduce, further study may reveal the Big Bang to be the most elegant pun in the history of the English language. ;)


(If I abandon my love of humor, I must admit that an asexual method strikes me more probable, but all the same....)
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I think I hate it because Hoyle coined it derisively, and because there was no sound.

Oh wait... universes reproducing... big bang... I'm a little slow on the uptake. :biglaugh:
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
There is no space outside of the universe.

Time itself did not exist until a few plank times after the initial expansion.
And I'm asking for proof of this.

Well, first I wonder why you are asking me this here instead of the thread it was originaly posted in? (Even a polite PM inviting a seperate discusion would have been nice.)

As for proof? Well, I cannot offer you "proof".
However,evidence indicates that this is so.
As I indicated in the original post...

I suggest you begin by reading "A Brief History of Time" and "Cosmos", as both are written for the layman.
 

Panda

42?
Premium Member
More useful:

1. the unlimited or incalculably great three-dimensional realm or expanse in which all material objects are located and all events occur.

2. the portion or extent of this in a given instance; extent or room in three dimensions: the space occupied by a body.

Both of these are applicable to whatever lies beyond the borders of our cosmos.

Well if you want to go from a physics point of view space is represents three of the four dimensions of spacetime.
 
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