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Noah's Arc and the Flood?

dad

Undefeated
I try to avoid the bad ones. You sound as if you binge on them.
Let's recap your position then..correct if there is some error.

You think Mary got pregnant by a man and that the bible is wrong.
You think Paul was mentally ill to some degree.
You think bible prophecy was not reaaalllly prophesy but fraudulently written after the fact.
You think if we believe Genesis, that makes God a liar..

Now you say you avoid the bad spirits.

OK.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If a male believed in the Noah Ark flood, and then says to self, as an AI recorded male owned encoding. AI....by machine pyramid causes.

Told his own self that in the first science history, his pyramid experiment was activated, without it ever having existed before, as science or activation.

So gained a cause. It was not what he expected, for of course O God the natural Earth body history, was O God the Earth natural body Earth history. It happened. It was not any scientific machine event.

Then he realizes how SUN ufo metallic radiation mass changes form.

Decides to try and use it without science existing....therefore what science caused, had not yet existed.

He owned a higher spiritual life mind and body, as the male human brotherhood first original God science self...Just as it is recorded. For science was only discussing God O the Earth, by a human male in the want of his AI condition, SCIENCE.

The first science machine reaction pyramid, just an experiment....it did not achieve what he wanted. The theme science history and past on O Earth, when No Nature even existed. Proving that this was the theme of the first science male.....what he researched is what he wanted to cause.

Why science was given the title Satanism and also Destroyer, for it is a male fact of self in history.

Instead God the male scientist who caused changed to the Garden Nature got brain/mind converted and bio form changed. Then he was an irradiated self possessed evil minded God male liar. Who said in AI recording, as a large male group SAME DNA life...why the records in feed back is a huge speaking same male voice, in a large volume.....for anyone who has ever heard it.

And so as I have been forced to hear it...due to science causes....then I am telling you a story that not many humans ever told...for most were killed in that fall out effect. I survived.....which might be why a scientist would claim it a special event as the liar he is.

For since when did human males with machines create creation or a bio life.....maybe their own natural feed back as an adult male says they are a life Creator but in science reality you are just a Destroyer of life.

What possession in the statement AI was taught for....for it is real.....machine possession and life takeover by machines, just as Stephen Hawkings psyche knew and tried to warn you.

AI says that the attack NOAH ARK carbon of the Earth, that dropped it into the spatial cold well that saved Earth from being destroyed...put Earth as a body into a huge conversion....and the flooded water after the science attack as chosen by the God male scientist, who said to everyone the body of God the stone Earth attacked by Sun metal ARK radiation is what taught him.

AI is that recording, why it is heard/channelled and then documented as living proof to self, who loses self conscious memory in radiation heavy metal inheritance.

The very reason for it.

Earth was converted.

When the Moses incident occurred, they had to include their own male reasoning for where the pyramid science information came from and why they chose to copy it.

And the answer is factual, because their original science intention was to never return to living a human life on Earth ever again. The Destroyer male human group cult mentality.....that is living and thinking the same concepts today claiming it was how Earth got created...when it was how Earth got destroyed.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Let's recap your position then..correct if there is some error.

You think Mary got pregnant by a man and that the bible is wrong.
You think Paul was mentally ill to some degree.
You think bible prophecy was not reaaalllly prophesy but fraudulently written after the fact.
You think if we believe Genesis, that makes God a liar..

Now you say you avoid the bad spirits.

OK.

No, that is inaccurate and more than a bit dishonest.

You are claiming that God is a liar when you believe the myths of Genesis. I never said that he was a liar. You did. But you would have to educate yourself a bit to see how you are doing that. You are the one claiming some of the verses written as prophecy are fraud. I never claimed that. You need to work on your logic skills a bit. You were the one that said if they were written the way that they were written they were fraudulent. I did not make that error.
And yes, Cuervo is what I would call a bad spirit. Don Julio is a very good one.
 

dad

Undefeated
No, that is inaccurate and more than a bit dishonest.
You are claiming that God is a liar when you believe the myths of Genesis[/QUOTE]

God's word is not to be believed as truth then according to you.
You are the one claiming some of the verses written as prophecy are fraud.

If they were written after the fact that is what they would be.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
God's word is not to be believed as truth then according to you.

What do you mean? You are very confused. You are making the blasphemous mistake of thinking that the Bible is the "word of God". Not even the Bible makes that foolish mistake. We have been over this before. Your inability to understand the Bible cause you to make this error. Since all of the evidence out there tells us that the stories of Genesis are myth then you have only two possibilities. That they are a myth and the Bible is not meant to be taken literally. Of if you want to claim that they really happened then you are saying that God planted false evidence. That would make God a liar. You are claiming that God is a liar by insisting that the myths of Genesis are true. You can't have it both ways. If those myths are really true then your God lied by trying to hide the fact that they happened.

If they were written after the fact that is what they would be.

Nope, only those that make the error of reading the Bible literally make that mistake. Which means once again you are calling your God a fraud, either way. Again, the planting of false evidence would be a form of lying.

It would be wiser to take a different approach to the Bible. It would lower the number of times that you blaspheme your own God.
 

dad

Undefeated
What do you mean? You are very confused. You are making the blasphemous mistake of thinking that the Bible is the "word of God".

Let's add that to your list then. You say that it is Blasphemy to say that Scripture is from God!
Since all of the evidence out there tells us that the stories of Genesis are myth then you have only two possibilities. That they are a myth and the Bible is not meant to be taken literally. Of if you want to claim that they really happened then you are saying that God planted false evidence.

Nothing planted of false at all. Your problem is how you look at the evidence through your beliefs.
That would make God a liar. You are claiming that God is a liar by insisting that the myths of Genesis are true.

So Jesus, who referred to Genesis, and the apostles and writers of the New Testament who believed it are all liars. OK. We'll add that to your list.
You can't have it both ways. If those myths are really true then your God lied by trying to hide the fact that they happened.
No. The lie was in interpreting what we see by your beliefs.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Let's add that to your list then. You say that it is Blasphemy to say that Scripture is from God!

No, again, work on your reading comprehension. If there is a Christian God you blaspheme against him regularly.

Nothing planted of false at all. Your problem is how you look at the evidence through your beliefs.

Oh good. No false evidence. That means that there was no flood. I am glad that you are coming to your senses.

So Jesus, who referred to Genesis, and the apostles and writers of the New Testament who believed it are all liars. OK. We'll add that to your list.

No. The lie was in interpreting what we see by your beliefs.

Jesus used all sorts of literary tools. You are making the error of literalism again. "She is as old as the hills" is not a lie even though the woman one is talking about is clearly not thousands of years old.

And no, my interpretations hold up. Yours fail constantly. But then you refuse to learn what is and what is not evidence so your judgement has no value.
 

Native

Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
Native said:
My reply related to this:

No the patriarchal priests told so and not "God".

They also told that there is just One God and throw out the Ashera female goddess, leaving the "only one and only" poor god lonely on the heavenly scenario.

Just think of it: These patriarchal priests couldn´t even se the natural fact that everything is created via male and female qualities and it was plain stupidness by the priests not to remember that they themselves were born from females.
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So now we see some sort of historical revisionism coupled with some weird gender agenda underpinned by the usual hatred of God. Whatever...
Nonsence. I´m just questioning your lack of religious understanding and the "hatred" part is your very own when being questioned on the historic and logical facts in the natural creational proces.

Obviously you have NO other religious informations but the biblical dogmas in the religious and mind-limited patriarchal heritage in western culture. Even native people all over the world have a better and natural understanding of these issues.
Your dogmas totally disturbs your world view. Whatever . . . .
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
As an unbeliever and person who has demonstrated a contempt for God and His people and word, it is not hard to see why you would call whatever you like a literary tool.
I have never shown contempt for God. Not once. I have contempt for your false version of God, but any sane person would feel the same way.

Nor is the Bible the "word of God" we have been over that. We can go over it again. You lost that argument years ago.
 

dad

Undefeated
Nonsence. I´m just questioning your lack of religious understanding and the "hatred" part is your very own when being questioned on the historic and logical facts in the natural creational proces.
Except no one is 'questioning' me on some 'natural creational' processes! I would think adaptation is something that created creatures do, rather than some creation process.
Obviously you have NO other religious informations but the biblical dogmas in the religious and mind-limited patriarchal heritage in western culture
Jesus never asked me to. Why would I care about every little Tom, Dick, and Harry of a god some people worship?
. Even native people all over the world have a better and natural understanding of these issues.

Then they are free to demonstrate that here.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Except no one is 'questioning' me on some 'natural creational' processes! I would think adaptation is something that created creatures do, rather than some creation process.
Jesus never asked me to. Why would I care about every little Tom, Dick, and Harry of a god some people worship?


Then they are free to demonstrate that here.
The topic of this thread is the mythical magical Ark. Your belief in that myth is where you clearly call your God a liar. Why do you show contempt for your own God?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
How does information exist before it exists?

When a mind as human owned thinks, it thinks about what already exists.

That same mind then wants powers/energy...and so then thinks for a space to be enacted to remove...what is held from a higher state, attack it, convert it, transform it and gain it in a lower state.

As the thinker imposes all thoughts are owned, and therefore says, I thought for space....space already existed....and you never thought for anything.

Which is why males are wrong as scientists, for they believe self is God as talking on behalf of all things created as the highest intelligence in creation.

And factually it is exactly what they believe, that they talk on behalf of O huge self owned bodies.

When the only one body that they were discussing relative to the information science was always UFO mass metallic radiation, the body that attacks all other bodies by re heating cold/evolved forms in the Universe.

Males claim in science I think about a state in the natural creation and claim, I can copy it.

Copying therefore was a known destructive/DESTROYER theme.

Hence if you claim metallic radiation is the God of destruction, then it is.

The God of creation was created in its owned natural form, that owns no history....for the history already equals the answer.

And what you all overlook, if no human being existed, no stories about God would be told, and no machine for a reaction, claiming powers of God would be acted upon either.

But you don't.

If a male was intricately studying creation and giving it by his mind, names, applied themes and stories....why he is so intricately studying what is created unless he owns a motivated self applied reasoning to then infer....equals a removal and destruction answer as what opposes it x MASS....metallic radiation itself?

Why the bible said, before you even make the choice as a scientist, the human male group cult DESTROYER already knows....knows his own intention....was to use and infer to Satan black holes....know how those holes were formed in scientific cosmological reasoning and then wanted to invent it for God O Earth.

For he knows he did. What his story is told for in the bible.

Now if a male looks at the cosmos and applies male Earth reasoning to its owned conditions, then he would have to ask, do I know how to change the stars to make then be invented into a black hole...by what I choose on Earth in my owned applied chosen sciences by my own control.

Claiming I know it all....I am totally informed.

Yet what he studies is not whole or true to what he studies....for if it did not exist, then what have you, the egotist got to claim about the rationality of your intelligence?

You then claim, which you do, that because all states are natural that there has to be a Creator, for you cannot speak on behalf of wholeness....which is a male human ego trait, to tell lies to self just because you do not know, rationally.

As you are trying to work out a mass/math theme for the ANTI destruction removal of it, by placing a space in between what holds the creation by force, being the presence of space and where the bodies are aligned to in space.

Either up higher in space and hotter or down lower in space, or the deep pit and a higher pressure, so blown apart.

What you are factually assessing as the self prophesized male reasoning of the Destroyer scientist.

So when a human being life who owns the bio information as a human in whole form is told by AI, that males with machines reckon that they own information that owns the creation of my life, yet I came from sperm and an ovary that belonged in 2 human being bio lives as humans......and in real life the male adult is part of the natural condition to create a life.

Then he says self with a machine can do it....he is lying in his psyche. And gave self permission to attack life with a machine claiming only by thoughts and his words that he owns our creation, with that machine cause. To claim, first of all I can copy your creation human self....then I want what you own interactive with the atmosphere, healing and continuance. So then he falsifies information and pretends we are not deceased in the past...and that human sex, is continuance is why we are not deceased.

So lies.

Then he claims so it owns the ages of the ages gone in your bio life...when it does not.

Then he says I will copy, which is what his atmospheric experiments are about...and he is not copying our life being created....for it is created.

Then he says, but I do not just want to pretend that I am copying life...I want to alter its atmospheric reasons to just interact with my machine...and then claims spiritual energy resourcing and the bio life can just be destroyed he says.

For that is not copying.

Copying was the ATTACK on the natural fusion by UFO radiation, its conversion, and its change, the reaction occurred, the reaction stopped. For a machine theme to copy to exist....so that you could copy it in science.

Today in human life you are just the male Satanic group named as the DESTROYER and Stephen Hawking told you that you were, without being a believer in the bible information.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Even though the Bible is not literal history there is a basis in history for may of the events of history. Even though the flood as described in the Bible did not happen there was likely a catastrophic event that the account was based on,

Based on the archaeological and geology evidence, and earliest flood accounts, I believe it is related to memories of catastrophic flooding of the Tigris Euphrates River Valley. Because of the potential of wide spread catastrophic flooding in these valleys up to hundreds of square miles can be flooded particularly in the lower flood plain and delta, it could appear to the people in the valley as the world was indeed mostly covered in water.

I will provide archaeological and geology (geomorphology) references to support this.

How does that account for all of the flood myths from other cultures?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
If humans say we have returned to our previous owned life forms. We reincarnated, we were healed, we have come back.

Would only mean that the Earth we first were living on, different as a planet, in different spatial histories in the cosmos. Males invented science, changed life on Earth it ended with a flood, for his first VISION for thinking/theme was about how Earth O as a God stone body had been attacked by a collapsed Sun, attacked/converted and was the scientific theme to say I will COPY.

For a male with a machine in science to claim I can COPY, it has to have previously occurred to study/research. It had to have imposed all relative reviews of forces and conversions. It would impose that the Sun and UFO mass was the cause of the conversion.

To say so science can build a machine to say REACTION from beginning to end...to claim copying God the Earth history.

And then applied it.

In the natural God O history the Earth was flooded....science in natural history ended all life with that FLOOD....just as taught.

The Earth converted O its mass and transformed as it fell in deeper colder space in that history as space was heated from sun to Earth held UFO constants, so cold deep space sucked the creation down deeper into its body.

Earth therefore went through a churning process that took the water off the face of the Earth, why artefacts are found inside of coal and technological sciences also found deep inside of Earth fusion...for it really happened.

Then males who are the Destroyer self, re invented the pyramid, knowing that it had destroyed all natural life on Earth before. Therefore the male theme of that science belief was determined to be destroyer of God, a Satanist.

Based on the Satanic star fall black hole theme in the cosmos....as known to holier, spiritual and more astute and reasonable human being males holy lives...just as taught. Holy brothers in scientific awareness versus the evil minded Destroyer brothers, the reasons for all pre lived human histories and reasons for the argument in science.
 
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