Noah's Ark Flood Theories

[Just_me_Mike]

Well that's a personal flaw I have, Jesus had no flaws. However I do pray about it to see if God wants me to stop posting in forums. So far no definate answer.

You'll never hear from God. The most you can expect is to look in the mirror one day and realize you don't have all the answers, and you do look quite silly arguing the things you argue.

Just enjoy your God in peace and quiet.

Good luck...

 

[Man of Faith]

There is not enough water or ice in or on the earth to flood it.
The whole story is simply a fable.

That's not what my sources say, you must be thinking that the mountains that we see today were that high before the flood.

 

[Man of Faith]

You'll never hear from God. The most you can expect is to look in the mirror one day and realize you don't have all the answers, and you do look quite silly arguing the things you argue.

Just enjoy your God in peace and quiet.

Good luck...

Thanks you too. But I do hear from God all the time, when I pray, ask questions, seek answers, read the Bible etc...

 

[Humanistheart]

That's not what my sources say, you must be thinking that the mountains that we see today were that high before the flood.

Where are these so called sources? You must be thinking that the flood you described actually happened, dispite your inablility to prove it.

 

[Humanistheart]

Well that's a personal flaw I have, Jesus had no flaws. However I do pray about it to see if God wants me to stop posting in forums. So far no definate answer.

Right, because massive anger problems and self dillusion isn't a flaw at all.

 

[The Neo Nerd]

I believe there is evidence of global flooding. Just not in the time frame that is required to prove the biblical flood myth.

The earth goes through cycles of warming and cooling.

And MoF animals digging, are you serious. ANimal holes are very small and easily covered up by the next decent rainfall.

My theory on the myth is the ancient people who wrote about the myth experienced some localised flooding. Being ignorant of the rest of the world they assumed the flooding occured world wide.

Remember these are the same people who said the world was flat.

-Q

 

[Just_me_Mike]

But I do hear from God all the time

In all seriousness, be careful with that. You sound quite giggly about sharing that with me, but...

Anyway, just be careful...

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

That's not what my sources say, you must be thinking that the mountains that we see today were that high before the flood.

Mountains change height as the tectonic plates move and push up folds, and volcano's form over fractures in the crust. The surface of the earth drawn to scale is, and has always been as smooth as an orange.
All the water in and on the earth would not even raise the present ocean water level by 5 feet.

 

[Humanistheart]

Mountains change height as the tectonic plates move and push up folds, and volcano's form over fractures in the crust. The surface of the earth drawn to scale is, and has always been as smooth as an orange.
All the water in and on the earth would not even raise the present ocean water level by 5 feet.

While I don't want to encourage the ridiculous notion of the flood, I will say that your statement is simply not true. The polar ice caps are melting, and the ocean is indeed rising. Look at a picture of the galopogose islands today, and compare it to one tacken 20 years ago. They're shrinking.

 

[ragordon168]

While I don't want to encourage the ridiculous notion of the flood, I will say that your statement is simply not true. The polar ice caps are melting, and the ocean is indeed rising. Look at a picture of the galopogose islands today, and compare it to one tacken 20 years ago. They're shrinking.

even with the antartic ice melting the sea levels could never rise enough to flood the entire planet. sure the size of the coasts will skrink but there will always be huge amounts of land sticking up above sea level.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

You know here is the thing. And I want everyone to pay attention here.

Jesus did all sort of miracles, created food out of virtually nothing but a bit of bread and fish. Where did the new matter come from that created all the extra fish?

The idea is very common throughout the bible that God does things in a way that are completely against what we know to be.

The disciples for example could not even remember Jesus did the food trick, and when they were at sea, Jesus questioned them and said do you all not remember what I did with the food? Which points out just how foreign the things Jesus was doing were to humans.

If, and BIG IF, God flooded the whole world, isn't that his business? Couldn't he do it without a trace? All this arguing about prove this or that, is SO STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Nepenthe]

Well that's a personal flaw I have, Jesus had no flaws. However I do pray about it to see if God wants me to stop posting in forums. So far no definate answer.

That's not the answer I got...:sarcastic

 

[Humanistheart]

You know here is the thing. And I want everyone to pay attention here.

Jesus did all sort of miracles, created food out of virtually nothing but a bit of bread and fish. Where did the new matter come from that created all the extra fish?

The idea is very common throughout the bible that God does things in a way that are completely against what we know to be.

The disciples for example could not even remember Jesus did the food trick, and when they were at sea, Jesus questioned them and said do you all not remember what I did with the food? Which points out just how foreign the things Jesus was doing were to humans.

If, and BIG IF, God flooded the whole world, isn't that his business? Couldn't he do it without a trace? All this arguing about prove this or that, is SO STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right. God loves people, and he makes the key's to the gates of paradise belief, and then goes out of his way to eliminate anything that would inspire said belief, such as evidence of a world flood. So, original sin, demons and lucifer, our own 'sinful' instincts and inclinations, the inequality of life, etc aren't enough obsticles, god must then somehow feel the need to eleminate any reason for anyone to believe in him and then punish people when they don't. What a great god you believe in there.

 

[Humanistheart]

even with the antartic ice melting the sea levels could never rise enough to flood the entire planet. sure the size of the coasts will skrink but there will always be huge amounts of land sticking up above sea level.

True, but terry's assertion was that the ocean couldn't rise 5 ft. It seems that it already has. But no, there is not enough to cover the earth.

 

[Nepenthe]

You know here is the thing. And I want everyone to pay attention here.

Jesus did all sort of miracles, created food out of virtually nothing but a bit of bread and fish. Where did the new matter come from that created all the extra fish?

The idea is very common throughout the bible that God does things in a way that are completely against what we know to be.

The disciples for example could not even remember Jesus did the food trick, and when they were at sea, Jesus questioned them and said do you all not remember what I did with the food? Which points out just how foreign the things Jesus was doing were to humans.

If, and BIG IF, God flooded the whole world, isn't that his business? Couldn't he do it without a trace? All this arguing about prove this or that, is SO STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well sure. An omnipotent God could have created the world 40 seconds ago and created the illusion of deep time. An omnipotent God could have invented the Jesus story 30 seconds ago and we're under the delusion 2000 years of Christianity are historically significant. The Omphalos hypothesis may be accurate. But doing so means you have a trickster deceptive God and any life experiences and choices are utterly irrelevant since God instilled them in you 10 seconds ago.

Also, inerrantists attempt to use science- bad science- to prop up their delusions about a young earth or a literal interpretation of the Ark story. Interjecting a historical interpretation means the Deluge can be investigated with scientific tools, and when you look at all the historical, geological, biological, and archeological evidence the flood story cannot be held as an actual historical event.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

While I don't want to encourage the ridiculous notion of the flood, I will say that your statement is simply not true. The polar ice caps are melting, and the ocean is indeed rising. Look at a picture of the galopogose islands today, and compare it to one tacken 20 years ago. They're shrinking.

I was including the Ice caps. The Northern one will be gone in only a few years.
The Southern one overlays a a Land mass and will take rather longer. Recent calculations for all Ice melt from Glaciers and polar caps will not be more than I suggested.

 

[Humanistheart]

I was including the Ice caps. The Northern one will be gone in only a few years.
The Southern one overlays a a Land mass and will take rather longer. Recent calculations for all Ice melt from Glaciers and polar caps will not be more than I suggested.

You said 5 ft, ft of ocean's already happened, again, thanks to the ice melting. I agree that it wont flood the earth, but you were wrong about the 5ft, just accept that and move on.

 

[Just_me_Mike]

Well sure. An omnipotent God could have created the world 40 seconds ago and created the illusion of deep time. An omnipotent God could have invented the Jesus story 30 seconds ago and we're under the delusion 2000 years of Christianity are historically significant. The Omphalos hypothesis may be accurate. But doing so means you have a trickster deceptive God and any life experiences and choices are utterly irrelevant since God instilled them in you 10 seconds ago.

And in my life experience and for whatever reason in my heart I tend to believe this is what is happening, and feel fine for being a part of it in whatever way God sees fit.

I don't feel special, I just simply feel it is true

 

[Man of Faith]

Even secular scientists agree that the earth looked different at one time, some land was together. How do we know that the oceans were as deep before the flood, God could have caused them to go deep to hold all the water from the flood. The Bible says he sets the boundaries of the oceans. My sources say there is enough water to cover the whole earth 1.7 miles.

 

[ragordon168]

I was including the Ice caps. The Northern one will be gone in only a few years.
The Southern one overlays a a Land mass and will take rather longer. Recent calculations for all Ice melt from Glaciers and polar caps will not be more than I suggested.

well the N polar sheets dont count because of the water displacement cause by the floating ice.

only the south pole and other land based ice sheets can change the water levels. so thats why this is so scary to enviromentalists: