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Noah's Ark

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
the water around a waterfall is not the same as a mist that comes upon the earth during the night.... and the mist that still comes upon earth during the night does not produce rainbows because there is no light to be refracted

The water drops that fly up from a waterfall is quiet different to the moisture in the air which can produce dew.

Stop it....just stop it right now....:slap:


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"Doesn't happen that often but a nice rainbow off the deck after a morning mist"
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To confirm the Niagara Falls rainbow here is a second pic that does happen after the morning mist


Rainbow in the Mist | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
"This rainbow was formed by the morning light shining through the mist being generated at Niagara Falls. You can almost see a second rainbow to the left of the main one. The amount of water flowing over these falls is unbelievable."

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Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Stop it....just stop it right now....:slap:


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"Doesn't happen that often but a nice rainbow off the deck after a morning mist"
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To confirm the Niagara Falls rainbow here is a second pic that does happen after the morning mist


Rainbow in the Mist | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
"This rainbow was formed by the morning light shining through the mist being generated at Niagara Falls. You can almost see a second rainbow to the left of the main one. The amount of water flowing over these falls is unbelievable."

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not all mists contain water droplets. Can you see the humidity in the air? In some places the humidity is so high you can actually feel the water on your skin...but you wont see rainbows and you wont see drops of water floating around the air.
 

averageJOE

zombie
it doesnt need to say that.... you just need to go out in the night or early hours of morning to see the dew formed by the moisture in the air...or the mist. These verses are ambiguous, but if you look at the natural world, their meaning becomes clear.

we use the same reasoning with regard to the age of earth. The physical earth is much older then a literal 6 days of creation, therefore we understand that the 'days' mean 'ages' and we've always held to that position based on the physical evidence.
Look at the pictures in post 141 that Penguin so kindly provided. Those are pictures of the natural world. Pictures of natural rainbows. What your suggesting is that light acted differently back then.

All this about mist only coming out at night is only a poor assumtion on your (or the entire JW's) part.

Truth is, deep down I don't think you really believe it either. I think that your forcing yourself to belive all that because your religion tells you what to think.
 

JustWondering2

Just the facts Ma'am
Isn't mist in the air just another word for water vapor? If so how could a mist (in our atmosphere) not contain H2O? What element does it contain if not water? You (Pegg) must have studied a totally different science in elementery school than I did. So please tell me what this mystery element is that some mist consist of that's NOT water! That's a new one on me. :yes:
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Isn't mist in the air just another word for water vapor? If so how could a mist (in our atmosphere) not contain H2O? What element does it contain if not water? You (Pegg) must have studied a totally different science in elementery school than I did. So please tell me what this mystery element is that some mist consist of that's NOT water! That's a new one on me. :yes:
It's "Creation Science".;)
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
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not all mists contain water droplets.
Mist is a phenomenon of small droplets suspended in air. It can occur as part of natural weather or volcanic activity, and is common in cold air above warmer water, in exhaled air in the cold, and in a steam room of a sauna. It can also be created artificially with aerosol canisters if the humidity conditions are right.

The only difference between mist and fog is visibility.[1] This phenomenon is called fog if the visibility is one kilometre (1,100 yards) or less (in the UK for driving purposes the definition of fog is visibility less than 200 metres, for pilots the distance is 1 kilometre). Otherwise it is known as mist. Seen from a distance, mist is bluish, and haze is more brownish.[citation needed]

Religious connotations are associated with mist in some cultures; it is used as a metaphor in 2 Peter 2:17.

Mist makes a beam of light visible from the side via refraction and reflection on the suspended water droplets.

"Scotch mist" is a light steady drizzle, the name being typical of the Scottish penchant for understatement (and of Scottish weather).

Mist usually occurs near the shores, and is often associated with fog. Mist can be as high as mountain tops when extreme temperatures are low. [wiki]
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A Troubled Man

Active Member
not all mists contain water droplets. Can you see the humidity in the air? In some places the humidity is so high you can actually feel the water on your skin...but you wont see rainbows and you wont see drops of water floating around the air.

It doesn't matter whether or not you can "see" humidity in the air, by definition, it is the amount of water in the air per unit volume (Absolute Humidity) or can be expressed as a mixture of air and water vapor, usually as a ratio.
 

Dan4reason

Facts not Faith
kangaroos are not only native to australia...a similar animal (tree kangaroo) is also found in the Papua new guinea which is connected to the asian continent

The Papua new Guineans were able to cross over to Australia along coral reef beds, so you can easily imagine that if man could walk here, so could animals seeking new territories.

So how did the penguins get to Antartica?
 

gnostic

The Lost One
oryonder said:
Now we have to figure out how Noah managed to wrangle up two Polar bears from the Arctic, two Spectacled bears from South America, and two of every other creature from around the planet.

Then we have to figure out how these animals got back home again after the flood.

Call me silly but I reckon it would be a tough go for a Kangaroo to make it back to Australia

Forget about kangaroo. It is even more silly if you think that the wombat or kola bear could travel from Mt Ararat to Australia. These 2 creatures are not known for travelling over great distance.
 

Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
Isn't mist in the air just another word for water vapor? If so how could a mist (in our atmosphere) not contain H2O? What element does it contain if not water? You (Pegg) must have studied a totally different science in elementery school than I did. So please tell me what this mystery element is that some mist consist of that's NOT water! That's a new one on me. :yes:

Mist is water droplets. Vapor is not. The air around most of us has water vapor in it, but it can't be felt. Mist would get you wet. A common way to get water vapor to condense is to set an ice cold adult beverage next to your computer and watch the water vapor condense on it.

BTW, this conversation is starting to remind me of the Rainbow Conspiracy:
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Sprinkler Rainbow Conspiracy - YouTube
 

Krok

Active Member
So how did the penguins get to Antartica?
Something off-thread, but I love penguins.

To me they are the most entertaining animals in the world. I spend days watching them when I go to Cape Town . They are magnificent. On land, so slow and funny; in the water, so quick and graceful!:areyoucra

I would actually also want to know how those penguins got to Antartica after the "Flood". Maybe some creation "scientist" can inform us about how it happend. Any creo here, what does your choice of holy book say about it?
 

Oryonder

Active Member
Forget about kangaroo. It is even more silly if you think that the wombat or kola bear could travel from Mt Ararat to Australia. These 2 creatures are not known for travelling over great distance.

How the Spectacled Bear got back home to South America is another conundrum.

Good luck all these animals finding food for their respective trips home with everything destroed by the flood. In fact that they would not have had enough food on the Ark for the over half a year trip to begin with .. Elephants can eat up to 650 lbs of food a day (cut this in half, rations and call it 300 lbs) 2 Elephants = 600 lbs x 150 days = 90,000 lbs of food.

For an Elephant of weight = 10,000 lbs .. this would be 9 x the volume of an Elephant in food .. but wait .. an Elephant is a vegitarian and hay and grass have far more volume than meat and bone.

Put in at least a 3 times volume multiplier and you would need the equivalent of 27 Elephant volumes just for the Food.

The size of a ship needed to care for just two elephants for 150 days is really really big.

Of course all this calculation is a mute point because there is no way for all these animals to have made it to the Ark to begin with.

In Noah's time, assuming it were possible, it would take a number of years for he and his sons to collect just two Polar Bear and bring them back to the Ark.

Considering the "great flood" happened roughly 2200-2400 BC. Noah and son's would still be collecting specimens required to have 2 of each of the distinct species found on the planet today.
 

beerisit

Active Member
Forget about kangaroo. It is even more silly if you think that the wombat or kola bear could travel from Mt Ararat to Australia. These 2 creatures are not known for travelling over great distance.
Not only that but the Koala (who is not a bear) only eats the uppermost leaves of certain eucalypts and cannot survive without them. Too bad there were none left even in Aus much less the trip home. How many species were destroyed by carnivores after they got off the boat? Well you gotta eat!
 

Krok

Active Member
Not only that but the Koala (who is not a bear) only eats the uppermost leaves of certain eucalypts and cannot survive without them. Too bad there were none left even in Aus much less the trip home. How many species were destroyed by carnivores after they got off the boat? Well you gotta eat!
But, but, but...creationists look at the same evidence, just their conclusions are different (they include magic). Then they call it creation "science".
 
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beerisit

Active Member
But, but, but...creationists look at the same evidence, just their conclusions are different (they include magic). Then they call it creation "science".
Ya see I always forget the magic bit. David Copperfield is the answer to every question.:sorry1:
 
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