Fallen Prophet
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Correct.Yes, “attributed”, which mean people ASSUME OR BELIEVE that he was the “author” of those books and those stories.
But “attributed” doesn’t mean he was actual real “author”.
Sorry - but the portion after "you wrote..." was blank for me up until "...but you are missing the points."You said most of my previous post were irrelevant, you wrote...
...but you are missing the points.
My points that not only the Genesis Flood was a myth and that it never happened in the way Genesis narrated Noah’s story; that Moses himself was also a myth.
And if Moses is a myth (as well as his “supposed” life story), then so him being attributed to be the “author” of those books are also fictional, invented.
You are making assumptions that Moses is real.
But the only existence of literary evidence that these books exist, post-dated during Josiah’s reign or later. No such books existed in the Late Bronze Age.
So if Moses didn’t write the Flood story, then really it is pointless to ask who was Moses’ “sources”.
I am also having difficulty finding the post where I said your previous post was irrelevant.
I do remember that post though - I just didn't find it during my skimming of the thread - so if you could tell me which post it was I'd appreciate it.
In these kinds of discussions neither of our beliefs - yours or mine - concerning Noah and Moses or whatever are just not relevant.
I may argue from the point of view that they were real individuals - because I believe that side of the argument should always be represented - but I have often shared my questions and doubts about the Biblical record.
That being said - I have yet to see any verifiable and undeniable evidence that either proves or disproves the existence of Noah or Moses.
I personally do not believe there will ever be any evidence for either side. It will always be a subject of belief.
I am of the opinion that Genesis 1 is describing different events than the second and third chapters.I don’t who wrote Genesis, but it came from possibly many hands. For instances, there seems to be multiple different authors to the 2 creation stories - Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 & 3.
For instance, in Genesis 1 it say humans were made last, so that plants and vegetation and animals were created before there were humans. But in Genesis 2, it say god created Adam before there were vegetation and before there were animals. Two different orders of creation, which tell me there are two different myths.
The first chapter is describing a spiritual formation or organization of things that are soon to take physical form.
I'd love to explain my reasoning behind this - but I fear that they would fall on deaf ears.
If you are interested - I'll share.
It is my understanding of the text that the Genesis account claims that it rained for forty days - yet the flood waters were upon the Earth for 150 consecutive days.And flood stories, there seemed to be multiple authors of 2 different versions Flood. For instance, did the Flood rained for 40 days or 150 days?
Genesis 8 claims that,
"And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat." (Genesis 8:3-4)
This is your understanding - but from a differing viewpoint - they meshed well.Both creation and flood have some contradictory details, because they are trying to enmeshed multiple myths into one book.
I can neither confirm or deny this - but I have reason to believe otherwise.Anyway, I think Moses was invented character, where king Josiah tried to promote monotheism by having scribes invent a national “history”, which persisted after the fall of Jerusalem, hence an origin story that never happened.