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Non-Christians. Why do you care so much about Christians and Christianity?

Skwim

Veteran Member
So much so that you spend hours here debating and arguing with them post after post after post.

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(And yes, I realize that I do it myself and that people might expect my answer, but rather than possibly influencing the answers of others I'm going to wait with mine. :p )

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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
The thread title is a bit of a leading question, don't you think? Or did you intend this question to be asked only to non-Chrsitians who do care a lot about debating Christians or Christianity? Because I'm one of those non-Christians who doesn't care. :sweat:
 

Tomyris

Esoteric Traditionalist
Christianity is the religion of two billions of humans, half of its large economies, both the world's nuclear superpowers, and is indeed the largest religion on the planet. Its doctrines have influenced the law of the United Nations and countless countries that are themselves not Christian. Even if you are not interested in Christianity, it is interested in you. So of course it is a powerful, preoccupying moral subject.
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
I have been to multiple churches of various sects of Christianity for various lengths of time - some of those spanning years. The level of intellectual and emotional dishonesty I have been witness to within those settings is, quite frankly, ridiculous. And in 99% of the cases, the person/people committing the act(s) of dishonesty had no idea they were doing so. And this has nothing to do with their making faith-based claims that I simply didn't believe in or agree with. It has everything to do with specious statements that blatantly attempt to bury facts, stereotyping anyone and anything that isn't "Christian" to astounding degrees, complete willingness to remain ignorant of so many things on so many levels that directly relate to statements being made as if the speaker were well-versed in the subject(s), claims that other members of the church are "family", and in no way making good on that degree of proposed relationship whatsoever, veiled insults and jabs at the intelligence level of non-believers that are begged off of, or claimed were simply misinterpreted, passive-aggressiveness passed off as "peacefulness" and humility nowhere to be found.

I have seen proof of nothing other than that Christianity is a terrible mess, and so I have a hard time just sitting by while those who call themselves "witnesses" attempt to spread that mess.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
So much so that you spend hours here debating and arguing with them post after post after post.

calvin_arguing.png



(And yes, I realize that I do it myself and that people might expect my answer, but rather than possibly influencing the answers of others I'm going to wait with mine. :p )

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I used to. When I'm not on RF, I'm either collaging and drawing or when I'm taking classes studying and out the house. I hope I'm not the only one not obsessed over christianity. Probably because I live and breathe christian air I don't need to think about it to be in it. Who knows?
 

ADigitalArtist

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I debate when the topics interest me or when I feel adding my voice is important (sticking up for minorities for example.) But I'm not here to change minds. That way lies madness.
Even though I like to hone my own debate skills and refine my arguments, the biggest perk of this site is access to myriads of different, varied opinions. I read a hell of a lot more than I debate.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I've been married to one for 50 years, attend mass with her regularly, and I don't bad-mouth Christians nor Christianity even though I don't believe in their religious beliefs. Moral beliefs, yes, which is why I feel comfortable in any church, synagogue, mosque, temple, etc.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Most of the threads I debate Christians with have to do with how they(badly) interpret various verses from the Tanach. Other than that, I don't particularly care what they do or believe.
 

CogentPhilosopher

Philosophy Student
So much so that you spend hours here debating and arguing with them post after post after post.

calvin_arguing.png



(And yes, I realize that I do it myself and that people might expect my answer, but rather than possibly influencing the answers of others I'm going to wait with mine. :p )

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They just more commonly throw out claims for which I would have reason to argue and they are numerous.

To be honest the person I have argued with the most is a Setian not a Christian.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I have been to multiple churches of various sects of Christianity for various lengths of time - some of those spanning years. The level of intellectual and emotional dishonesty I have been witness to within those settings is, quite frankly, ridiculous. And in 99% of the cases, the person/people committing the act(s) of dishonesty had no idea they were doing so. And this has nothing to do with their making faith-based claims that I simply didn't believe in or agree with. It has everything to do with specious statements that blatantly attempt to bury facts, stereotyping anyone and anything that isn't "Christian" to astounding degrees, complete willingness to remain ignorant of so many things on so many levels that directly relate to statements being made as if the speaker were well-versed in the subject(s), claims that other members of the church are "family", and in no way making good on that degree of proposed relationship whatsoever, veiled insults and jabs at the intelligence level of non-believers that are begged off of, or claimed were simply misinterpreted, passive-aggressiveness passed off as "peacefulness" and humility nowhere to be found.

I have seen proof of nothing other than that Christianity is a terrible mess, and so I have a hard time just sitting by while those who call themselves "witnesses" attempt to spread that mess.

I think this is a good example of the types of prejudice referred to by the OP.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
So much so that you spend hours here debating and arguing with them post after post after post.

calvin_arguing.png



(And yes, I realize that I do it myself and that people might expect my answer, but rather than possibly influencing the answers of others I'm going to wait with mine. :p )

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Do I qualify as a Christian or not, for the purposes of your thread?
Tom
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Because on reading the Bible, and seeing the things prophesied fulfilled, don't know what else anyone would do.

It'd be like someone standing on a train track in a tunnel, and seeing the light coming, wouldn't you tell the others heading into the tunnel? :innocent:
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I have been to multiple churches of various sects of Christianity for various lengths of time - some of those spanning years. The level of intellectual and emotional dishonesty I have been witness to within those settings is, quite frankly, ridiculous. And in 99% of the cases, the person/people committing the act(s) of dishonesty had no idea they were doing so. And this has nothing to do with their making faith-based claims that I simply didn't believe in or agree with. It has everything to do with specious statements that blatantly attempt to bury facts, stereotyping anyone and anything that isn't "Christian" to astounding degrees, complete willingness to remain ignorant of so many things on so many levels that directly relate to statements being made as if the speaker were well-versed in the subject(s), claims that other members of the church are "family", and in no way making good on that degree of proposed relationship whatsoever, veiled insults and jabs at the intelligence level of non-believers that are begged off of, or claimed were simply misinterpreted, passive-aggressiveness passed off as "peacefulness" and humility nowhere to be found.

I have seen proof of nothing other than that Christianity is a terrible mess, and so I have a hard time just sitting by while those who call themselves "witnesses" attempt to spread that mess.
And we have you to trust to be honest about it all. :D

While I attend a Christian church and see nothing that you have mentioned.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I've been married to one for 50 years, attend mass with her regularly, and I don't bad-mouth Christians nor Christianity even though I don't believe in their religious beliefs. Moral beliefs, yes, which is why I feel comfortable in any church, synagogue, mosque, temple, etc.
And I humbly thank you. You actually sound a lot like Jesus. :D
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
So much so that you spend hours here debating and arguing with them post after post after post.

calvin_arguing.png



(And yes, I realize that I do it myself and that people might expect my answer, but rather than possibly influencing the answers of others I'm going to wait with mine. :p )

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I wonder how the Abrahamic religions became so influential in the world, so influential in my up bringing. Why the belief is so "necessary" for so many people.

What about these belief keeps folks clinging to them. Why the techniques of religious indoctrination continue to work in a modern world.

Why folks believe what they believe is fascinating to me I suppose.
 
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Skwim

Veteran Member
The thread title is a bit of a leading question, don't you think? Or did you intend this question to be asked only to non-Chrsitians who do care a lot about debating Christians or Christianity? Because I'm one of those non-Christians who doesn't care. :sweat:
In main, I use titles to attract interest. If appropriate, the subsequent content will qualify the title or explain it. Here, I'm only interested in the remarks by those non-Christians who do care so much about Christians and Christianity that they spend hours here debating and arguing with Christians post after post after post."

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columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Here, I'm only interested in the remarks by those non-Christians who do care so much about Christians and Christianity that they spend hours here debating and arguing with Christians post after post after post."
Because arguing is more fun than anything on TV?
Tom
 
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