Nones are apparently now the largest religious group...

[Bthoth]

Kinda.

They do have a culture to them.

About like US, 'we the people'.

While it doesn't seek to exclude anyone, if you don't line up with the culture, it may not be a good fit.

Correct. If common courtesy and personal responsibility are not held by the person in their own self control..... it breaks the rules of civility within the whole group, causing a 'loss to the common' to exist.

Worth checking into before plunging in.

I've participated in a group and attended many meetings of UU personally and how i know.

You?

 

[LuisDantas]

Who said beliefs evolve?

Quite a few people. As one would expect. They better do.

 

[JustGeorge]

About like US, 'we the people'.

Correct. If common courtesy and personal responsibility are not held by the person in their own self control..... it breaks the rules of civility within the whole group, causing a 'loss to the common' to exist.

I've participated in a group and attended many meetings of UU personally and how i know.

You?

I was extremely involved in the local UUs, which included teaching the YoUUth, being on the Religious Service Counsel, putting together a CUUPs group when the Earth Based Spirituality group folded, helped found a congregational outreach program, provided music with the band, did a few sermons, and helped upkeep the grounds with various tasks(cleaning, yardwork, etc). I kept this up for about three years.

There was definitely an upper middle class secular humanist atmosphere. Liberal politics definitely play a role in the culture of the UUs. If not on the left, most will receive a fairly cool reception.

 

[endlessvoid2018]

Me and my family attended a UU service a little while back. It was interesting.
Haven't gone back since though as my 5 year old really doesn't like sitting still.
I would definitely be defined as a religious "none." My wife and I are both
formerly Christians, and used to attend services fairly regularly. But once I lost
my faith in Christianity, my wife also expressed her doubts. She's on an Agnostic
spectrum somewhere, I'm on an Agnostic atheist spectrum, but I like a lot of
values that the UU belief seems to put forward. I might also be called a Humanist.

 

[Bthoth]

I was extremely involved in the local UUs, which included teaching the YoUUth, being on the Religious Service Counsel, putting together a CUUPs group when the Earth Based Spirituality group folded, helped found a congregational outreach program, provided music with the band, did a few sermons, and helped upkeep the grounds with various tasks(cleaning, yardwork, etc). I kept this up for about three years.

There was definitely an upper middle class secular humanist atmosphere. Liberal politics definitely play a role in the culture of the UUs. If not on the left, most will receive a fairly cool reception.

Then you are aware of the spiritual aspects?
The community outreach was apparently demonstrated in the events and upkeep.
Nothing outrageous ?

I never heard a political angle even once as the model had no political aspirations. The classing 'secular' aspect is also new.

They people in our group were human beings wanting to learn more.

 

[JustGeorge]

Then you are aware of the spiritual aspects?
The community outreach was apparently demonstrated in the events and upkeep.
Nothing outrageous ?

I never heard a political angle even once as the model had no political aspirations. The classing 'secular' aspect is also new.

They people in our group were human beings wanting to learn more.

The congregational outreach was mostly to check on members that may be needing something. It was a good thing, and I hope its still running.

The atmosphere where I was was extremely political; any spiritual aspects were kind of pushed to the side.

I do acknowledge congregations vary. It sounds like you've got a good one.

 

[Bthoth]

The congregational outreach was mostly to check on members that may be needing something. It was a good thing, and I hope its still running.

The atmosphere where I was was extremely political; any spiritual aspects were kind of pushed to the side.

I do acknowledge congregations vary. It sounds like you've got a good one.

The UU ideal that i read and observed before walking in, were impressive. Equality as a primary foundation. Each has a voice and opinion. Objections were more about application.

 

[JustGeorge]

The UU ideal that i read and observed before walking in, were impressive. Equality as a primary foundation. Each has a voice and opinion. Objections were more about application.

Honestly, that's what they told us when we signed up. It didn't seem to work that way in practice, though.

I don't want to clutter up the thread with my personal experiences, though. I'd be happy to hear that this congregation was an exception, and that other UU churches offer more spiritually.

 

[Bthoth]

Honestly, that's what they told us when we signed up. It didn't seem to work that way in practice, though.

I don't want to clutter up the thread with my personal experiences, though. I'd be happy to hear that this congregation was an exception, and that other UU churches offer more spiritually.

I was doing the same. The new person to join, reminded me of the group.

 

[Bthoth]

Is this sorta like agnostic or Universal Unitarians?

the start, that i commented too. @JustGeorge

 

[Shaul]

Which is what?

According to who?​

Based on what evidence?​

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Or is this simply the Trumpian reflex to smear the messenger.

The Pew Charities, which funds the Pew Research Center, gave over 90% of its political contributions to Democrats as per OpenSecrets.org.

 

[Shaul]

I do.

Commandments to torah, (judaism), to bible (christianity), then off to quran (islam) is the perfect evidence of 'beliefs evolve'. Developing over time, evolving.

You should see what happened with science and the ongoing evolution by knowledge developing, enabling the unveiling of the truths regarding matters of life.

ps..... the 'word' is what fulfills.

Change doesn't equate to evolution.

 

[Shaul]

Quite a few people. As one would expect. They better do.

Argumentum ad populum proves nothing.

 

[LuisDantas]

Argumentum ad populum proves nothing.

Indeed. I am not attempting it.

I am telling you outright that it is so. Beliefs do evolve, and they must.

In all honesty, I am a bit disappointed that I even have to point that out. It is a given, or should be.

If you want to challenge that, be my guest.

 

[Shaul]

Indeed. I am not attempting it.

I am telling you outright that it is so. Beliefs do evolve, and they must.

In all honesty, I am a bit disappointed that I even have to point that out. It is a given, or should be.

If you want to challenge that, be my guest.

You made an assertion. Feel free to prove it. Otherwise I dismiss it.

 

[LuisDantas]

If you value your own ideas só little, I can not help

 

[Father Heathen]

Who said beliefs evolve?

One could say that the rational and substantiated a belief is, the more evolved it is. Worthwhile beliefs grow alongside knowledge and understanding.

 

[Father Heathen]

Pew research has an agenda.

Yes, informing people.

 

[Shaul]

Yes, informing people.

Much like other propaganda sources.

 

[Shaul]

One could say that the rational and substantiated a belief is, the more evolved it is. Worthwhile beliefs grow alongside knowledge and understanding.

Some people say a lot of things. That doesn't make them true.