And the religions do not control what is true about god.
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Nones are apparently now the largest religious group...
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Really? If the premise that a religion was created by divine Being is true then your statement is both wrong and blaspheme.
Father Heathen
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Religion is what man presumes about god, or when men create gods in their own images.
Father Heathen
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So logic and evidence have no bearing on the validity of a belief, and all beliefs are equally valid?
That is according to you.
That isn't something I wrote and doesn't follow what I did write.
Father Heathen
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Maimonides would've agreed with me.
Really?
The key word "if' is what is divine.
The underlying reality that man made the religions is a part of your awareness. And you were honest enough to leave that open.
Great choice............. practically divine to be honest before belief.
No he wouldn't. He lived before the concept of evolution had even been promulgated. You are just spouting random stuff.
So you are committing the error you accuse others of doing. YOU don't define what religion is by denying the case it is created by the Divine.
No.. You imposed the assumptions.
Not I. I appreciated when you wrote 'if' and then applied the truth; mankind created all words and with words created a whole bunch of gods and all of the religions.
The folk of error use the man made beliefs and expect compliance.
My argument didn't require the proving of a possible case, only its delineation.
Father Heathen
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We're obviously not talking about evolution in the biological sense, but rather the shift and development of beliefs and ideas that occurs upon gaining more knowledge and understanding.
And it was right in front of you: """mankind created all words and with words created a whole bunch of gods and all of the religions.""""
I doubt you have even read Maimonides' Guide for the Perplexed. You don't know what you are talking about.
That proves my point. The entire statement assumes a priori that mankind did that without any proof. It denies the possibility that the Divine created words and gave them to people. You are arguing that a "god" couldn't have created religion because religion was created by mankind without any proof that is so.
Funny reply. What proof is there of a god? Zero but the facts stand, nothing in nature wrote words until mankind showed up.
Then if you want to use bible, upon adam becoming conscious then HE created the first word (named the mother of the living).
Nothing to deny. Real world: mankind because conscious and then capable to articulate (created words).
Not even whales with that huge brain wrote words. Not to mention, no god ever wrote a word unless you consider pharaohs as gods.
The proof is clear; no religions ever existed before mankind. Otherwise, the book of life (an owners manual) would have already been completed.
The difference between you and I is accepting what is REAL over all beliefs.
The proof of god's existence is a separate question from whether, if He exists, He created religion. You seem to fail to understand that.
I know , perhaps that is why the NONES are so much bigger, none of the adherents can provide any evidence and are still unwilling to accept that man kind created all of the religions.
More evidence you don't understand that the conditional statement is so hard to grasp for you. You keep trying to change the argument to whether god exists even when it is explained that isn't relevant to the question at all.