Nonspecific gender pronouns

[Jaymes]

What do you guys think of pronouns like zie/sie, hir, ve, etc? (an article on Wikipedia, for those unaware of them) As someone who has non/transgender friends who seem to enjoy it, I don't see a problem with it... though some people say it's PC-ness at its worst.

Opinions?

 

[Aqualung]

though some people say it's PC-ness at its worst

That's definitnely what I say.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What do you guys think of pronouns like zie/sie, hir, ve, etc?

I started to think you had a problem spelling. I see absolutly know reason to blur gender pronouns. I'll never understand why guys want to act like girls, and girls want to act like guys.

 

[jamaesi]

I think it would be great to have them.

 

[kreeden]

I'm about as politically uncorrect as they come , without getting rude . So ? What is wrong with implying gender ? We all have one . Ok , a few may have two ??? But what about the French ? Le and La and all of that ? Are they going to rewrite the whole language ?

Seriously . Isn't this going a little too far ? It would be easier just to neuter everyone and call them " it ". Personally I think that I would perfer that , as I am an " it ". I have no idea what a " sie " is .

 

[Crystal Red]

When used wisely, as in not for the wrong reasons it can be find, I have never revealed my gender, I don't think I need to, I feel more comfortable being neutral than any specific one. THough I don't agree with 50 year old paedophiles pretending to be little girls or whatever, I don't have a problem with being vague about your gender in general, I defy any of you to find a post of mine where I have revealed my gender, it doesn't mean what I have to say is any less important, I just don't want it getting out because I don't feel it to be appropriate.

 

[michel]

I guess it would stop me from writing "When he/she says that......." I could say "hir says that...........".......


I notice you prefer to keep your gender undisclosed Crystal Red; I must admit I cannot understand that (But I presume it is because I am 'Genderly happy' (if that exists! ). I also see that you seem to like the idea, Jamaesi - The only way I can 'understand' that is because you wish to be associated with neither sex, which of course, I tend to find a shame - just an emotional reaponse, I suppose, from a heterosexual man........I don't make sense, do I ?

 

[Aqualung]

you make perfect sense, michel, and I tend to agree.

Crystal Red. You say you don't want to be thought of as any gender. I tend to just think of the unlabled as male .

 

[Feathers in Hair]

Crystal Red. You say you don't want to be thought of as any gender. I tend to just think of the unlabled as male .

And since I tend to think of the unlabeled as female, you make a very good point, ma'am.

 

[michel]

I tend to think of the unlabelled as unlabelled.........

 

[Crystal Red]

I think most people think of the unlabelled as male, simply because of Christianity labelling God as a man when technically he's neither, it's just easier to talk to a face, even if you make the face up.

 

[Aqualung]

I think most people think of the unlabelled as male, simply because of Christianity labelling God as a man when technically he's neither, it's just easier to talk to a face, even if you make the face up.

Well, I think that technically he is male, but that's for a different thread

 

[Feathers in Hair]

That's right. She is male. (This different thread might be worthwhile.)

 

[Aqualung]

That's right. She is male. (This different thread might be worthwhile.)

Well, go ahead and start it if you want....

 

[Fluffy]

It would be incorrect to call somebody with no gender or physical aspects of both genders by either male or female pronouns so I guess they are necessary. I don't view this as being politically correct but simply by being correct. I wouldn't call a man, a woman, so what is the difference here. There are five recognised genders, existing in humans at least. I don't know whether seperate pronouns should be used for each. Using genderless pronouns would be far easier.

 

[Ardent Listener]

Being an "androgyne" online is much more acceptable in our society than it is in person. When people do not know how to gender lable you in person, they will often become very upset and even angry.

 

[kreeden]

I think most people think of the unlabelled as male, simply because of Christianity labelling God as a man when technically he's neither, it's just easier to talk to a face, even if you make the face up.

I tend to think of many unlabelled as male because I am male . I assume that if I were female , I would identify with these things as such ? People I tend to think of as people first , gender second ... actually that applies to most things , not just people .

 

[jamaesi]

I notice you prefer to keep your gender undisclosed Crystal Red; I must admit I cannot understand that (But I presume it is because I am 'Genderly happy' (if that exists!

). I also see that you seem to like the idea, Jamaesi - The only way I can 'understand' that is because you wish to be associated with neither sex, which of course, I tend to find a shame - just an emotional reaponse, I suppose, from a heterosexual man........I don't make sense, do I ?

I just really don't care about gender. I'm female, yeah, big deal. I'm otherkin (hahah!) and my "character" is neuter.

I think that having a genderless pronoun for those who don't identify that much with their gender or to be more inclusive would be nice (like in situations like "Everyone got his/her book" -it would be shorter, too.)

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

I have no Idea why people get hung up on gender tags.
To me HE SHE IT are just a convenience, They say it how it is.
I can see no reason to change it.

Terry
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Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.

 

[michel]

Being an "androgyne" online is much more acceptable in our society than it is in person. When people do not know how to gender lable you in person, they will often become very upset and even angry.

That's sad. People ought to know better.