North Korea's Military Might

[Shia Islam]

This is why the Bullying tactics used by the U.S. administration against other countries, can't be used against North Korea:

North Korea’s Conventional Forces visualized | Graphics | News | National Post

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Yeah, they pushed the same ridiculous arguments about Iraq's army, which we eradicated in a matter of days.

 

[Father Heathen]

This is why the Bullying tactics used by the U.S. administration against other countries, can't be used against North Korea:

North Korea’s Conventional Forces visualized | Graphics | News | National Post

Not sure what point a small amount of antiquated military equipment makes?

 

[WyattDerp]

Bullying tactics

If you called them Bullying Tactics it would sound even more official.

 

[Thief]

This is why the Bullying tactics used by the U.S. administration against other countries, can't be used against North Korea:

North Korea’s Conventional Forces visualized | Graphics | News | National Post

Are you characterizing America as a bully?.......really?

 

[Reverend Rick]

The little runt from North Korea had better reconsider his actions before he writes a check his butt can't cash.

This is not just a U.S.A. thing, I believe China is not very happy either.

 

[Aquitaine]

LOL single-engine Bi-Planes, T55's, PT-76's...... s' all just outdated Soviet/Chinese gear. North Korea's military is designed for parades in Pyongyang, not for actual fighting.

 

[Shia Islam]

Oh, Many people took it far tooo Personally.

Americans need to distance themselves from the 1% running their country

It's true that North Korea can't be compared with the US or Russia...

But the situation is far more complicated than to be compared with fighting an isolated despot like Saddam...

What is clear though, is that the influential lobby in the US has no interest in war against North Korea...

 

[Reverend Rick]

Oh, Many people took it far tooo Personally.

Americans need to distance themselves from the 1% running their country

It's true that North Korea can't be compared with the US or Russia...

But the situation is far more complicated than to be compared with fighting an isolated despot like Saddam...

What is clear though, is that the influential lobby in the US has no interest in war against North Korea...

The American people have grown tired of war, we would like to step back from being so aggresive. That said, make no mistake, if Kim fires a nuke, we WILL shut him down hard.

 

[Meow Mix]

There's an old adage that militaries perfect the art of fighting the last war right about the time the next (tactically completely different) war comes around. North Korea exemplifies this x10 as it's not even well equipped for the Cold War -- and from what I understand, its military is obsolete not only because of its equipments' age but because tactically, ground forces and piloted vehicles are rapidly going the way of the Dodo.

I'm not defending America's foreign policy, just commenting on North Korea's military compared to America, Europe, etc.

 

[McBell]

The American people have grown tired of war, we would like to step back from being so aggresive. That said, make no mistake, if Kim fires a nuke, we WILL shut him down hard.

Furthermore, the vast majority of Americans I interact with all agree if we do have need to shut the little boy down, it should be quick, hard, and leave a lasting impression.

 

[Meow Mix]

Furthermore, the vast majority of Americans I interact with all agree if we do have need to shut the little boy down, it should be quick, hard, and leave a lasting impression.

It would probably have to involve conventional weaponry and scalpel precision -- and China's approval for long-term aftermath.

1) Nukes are out of the question because neither China nor South Korea wants fallout from our mess raining over their territories or seeping into their river water.

2) China doesn't want an America-friendly nation sitting on its border, which is why North Korea has been tolerated as a barking dog chained to the post out back for so long by China. Some sort of agreement would likely have to be arrived to in which China somehow retains a "buffer zone" between itself and "Western" allies.

3) North Korea is populated by a heck of a lot of starving people: whatever nation accepts responsibility for their well-being is in for a HUGE economic shock to feed and deprogram them alone. China doesn't want this, South Korea doesn't want this, NOBODY wants this responsibility -- even though it's the right thing to do (given the destruction of their despicable regime).

Things are very complicated and nuanced on this peninsula. I don't see any readily available, sensible answers in sight.

 

[Reverend Rick]

It would probably have to involve conventional weaponry and scalpel precision -- and China's approval for long-term aftermath.

1) Nukes are out of the question because neither China nor South Korea wants fallout from our mess raining over their territories or seeping into their river water.

2) China doesn't want an America-friendly nation sitting on its border, which is why North Korea has been tolerated as a barking dog chained to the post out back for so long by China. Some sort of agreement would likely have to be arrived to in which China somehow retains a "buffer zone" between itself and "Western" allies.

3) North Korea is populated by a heck of a lot of starving people: whatever nation accepts responsibility for their well-being is in for a HUGE economic shock to feed and deprogram them alone. China doesn't want this, South Korea doesn't want this, NOBODY wants this responsibility -- even though it's the right thing to do (given the destruction of their despicable regime).

Things are very complicated and nuanced on this peninsula. I don't see any readily available, sensible answers in sight.

Obama should have invited him over to watch the final four and maybe give him a tour of our stealth fighter planes.

I think China might just reel him in and save us the trouble.

My biggest issue is the folks living in North Korea, they will not deserve what ever happens to them.

 

[Meow Mix]

Obama should have invited him over to watch the final four and maybe give him a tour of our stealth fighter planes.

I think China might just reel him in and save us the trouble.

My biggest issue is the folks living in North Korea, they will not deserve what ever happens to them.

Haha on inviting Jong Un to the final four

I agree about the North Korean civilians though. Nobody wants to take care of them -- certainly not their government; and I think the only thing that keeps China from saying "ok this mad dog has been barking enough" and swooping in is because then they'd have to take responsibility for them; and with the international spotlight/pressure have to actually do so (or at least pretend hard enough for it still to ding their frail economic powergrowth).

If once the Kim tyranny was ended that was the end of the story, NK would have ceased to exist from the first moment of displeasing China -- or, hell, from the Chinese intervention in the Korean War.

 

[Sha'irullah]

The issue with North Korea is that NOBODY likes the country and EVERYBODY wants to see Kim Jong-un gone. Just about all of the forces compromising NATO have their fingers on a little red button to blow North Korea to kingdom come. No support will come for North Korea because nobody wants to be involved with a country that has literally over half the world ready to invade it. Iran and China want no backing with this country because they have better priorities. China wishes to keep a strong economical gain and does not want the total collapse of Korea although it does not want to directly help them. And Iran is not adequate enough like China to survive a NATO thrashing. Iran can do serious harm considering its forces but they still can't outlast the US and any country backing it up which will usually be the UK and Germany. But neither of them want to get involved with a possibly full on NATO battle. The more humorous fact is that we have not officially declared a cease-fire or signed a treaty with Korea yet since we had our little scuffle with them earlier. So by technicality we have full rights to invade them even if the rest of NATO disagrees.
My only recommendation though is for people not to go under the impression that North Korea will be as easy as dealing with Saddam. By no means are they they that weak and underpowered. Quite the opposite really. Outdated equipment or not, as long as it goes boom it still works and it still gives North Korea a fighting chance.

 

[Reverend Rick]

The issue with North Korea is that NOBODY likes the country and EVERYBODY wants to see Kim Jong-un gone. Just about all of the forces compromising NATO have their fingers on a little red button to blow North Korea to kingdom come. No support will come for North Korea because nobody wants to be involved with a country that has literally over half the world ready to invade it. Iran and China want no backing with this country because they have better priorities. China wishes to keep a strong economical gain and does not want the total collapse of Korea although it does not want to directly help them. And Iran is not adequate enough like China to survive a NATO thrashing. Iran can do serious harm considering its forces but they still can't outlast the US and any country backing it up which will usually be the UK and Germany. But neither of them want to get involved with a possibly full on NATO battle. The more humorous fact is that we have not officially declared a cease-fire or signed a treaty with Korea yet since we had our little scuffle with them earlier. So by technicality we have full rights to invade them even if the rest of NATO disagrees.
My only recommendation though is for people not to go under the impression that North Korea will be as easy as dealing with Saddam. By no means are they they that weak and underpowered. Quite the opposite really. Outdated equipment or not, as long as it goes boom it still works and it still gives North Korea a fighting chance.

I'm not so sure Iran is hands off, but I agree that conventional war would be a problem.

China has the money and I don't see them allowing us to occupy North Korea, honestly I don't think even the United States wants to put any boots on the ground, so that leaves us with few options that we really want to consider.

The thing is, if this goes nuclear, it will end very quickly and be very messy. That has to be on China's mind.

 

[Sha'irullah]

I'm not so sure Iran is hands off, but I agree that conventional war would be a problem.

China has the money and I don't see them allowing us to occupy North Korea, honestly I don't think even the United States wants to put any boots on the ground, so that leaves us with few options that we really want to consider.

The thing is, if this goes nuclear, it will end very quickly and be very messy. That has to be on China's mind.

China does not want North Korea to be Americanized and brought into the NATO fold which would put a strong US presence right on China's doorstep. China does not have to deal with a heavily backed presence like this and they wish not in the future either. China also does not want refugees crowding inside and making China more inflated than what it already is now. China is looking for profit and economical stability. This is a country which rumors to have more than 1,000 executions a year for petty crimes and all of this is done obviously to reduce population. Poor unproductive criminals get executed or "mysteriously" killed in confinement. China has literally a million issues on its hands and the destabilization of North Korea will just add a couple Million more. China would without a doubt want to stealthily take out North Korea to possibly expand and stabilize a better economy but there is little in North Korea worth having besides the expansion of armed forces and political influence. But none of this is worth it in the long run from what I can tell.

 

[Iti oj]

The little runt from North Korea had better reconsider his actions before he writes a check his butt can't cash.

This is not just a U.S.A. thing, I believe China is not very happy either.

Nor russia.

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

This is why the Bullying tactics used by the U.S. administration against other countries, can't be used against North Korea:

North Korea’s Conventional Forces visualized | Graphics | News | National Post

Because it would be very easy for North Korea to destroy Seoul which is 31 miles from the boarder. Even without a nuclear weapon North Korea has lots of artillery that could lob biological and chemical shells into one of the most important cities in the world. There is just no way for the US to save Seoul. Then you add the backing of the Chinese. It is a war that has no good economic out come for the US.

 

[Thief]

Didn't see it....may have overlooked it.....

Does North Korea have any powerful allies?