Norway mosque shooting an 'attempted act of terror', police say

[We Never Know]

They are.

If someone was breaking into your house while you were in bed, why take a chance by calling a murderer to help you? (the police that show up could have killed in the line of duty which you say makes them a murder).

 

[Spirit of Light]

Do you think someone that kills someone, regardless of how or reason, is a murderer?

I think i answered that already. If you kill someone then yes you are a murderer. Or should i call it killer.

 

[Left Coast]

‘Norwegian police said Sunday that a shooting at a mosque near Oslo is being treated as an "attempted act of terror" and that the suspected gunman harbours far-right, anti-immigrant views.

The suspect entered the mosque in the affluent Oslo suburb of Baerum on Saturday armed with multiple weapons and opened fire before being overpowered by a 65-year-old man who suffered minor injuries.

Hours after the attack, the body of a young woman was found in a home in Baerum and police on Sunday confirmed that it was the suspect's 17-year-old stepsister. Investigators launched a murder investigation into the death.’

Read more here: Norway mosque shooting an 'attempted act of terror', police say

It's all a myth, you see.

'Don't go to Walmart next week': White supremacist arrested for threatening shooting

 

[Spirit of Light]

It's all a myth, you see.

'Don't go to Walmart next week': White supremacist arrested for threatening shooting

It was not a myth for the 17 year old girl who died because of the guy who Also attacked the mosque

 

[Twilight Hue]

I don't care about the deterrent argument since there will always be killers, but it should an option to remove the monsters among us like Brevik. He probably won't even be in jail for the rest of his life. Outrageous!

I certainly agree. But you know, I also think sometimes people need to learn life lessons the hard way.

 

[dianaiad]

I don't care about the deterrent argument since there will always be killers, but it should an option to remove the monsters among us like Brevik. He probably won't even be in jail for the rest of his life. Outrageous!

The death penalty isn't really (or shouldn't really) be about punishment. It should be about removing a threat to innocent lives. As in...if the guy on death row would, if freed, go kill someone, then perhaps killing him is the best thing for everybody.

Me...I'm nastier than that. I do believe in punishment. I want people who deliberately commit murder to spend a very long time in a concrete cell. With nothing to do. Nobody to talk to. For the rest of, hopefully, a very long life.

I do NOT believe that a deliberate murderer (especially one whose motive is not , er, 'personal,' will ever be safe to let out on the streets, so something has to be done about him or her to make certain that opportunity never exists again. IMO, the death penalty is the easy way out.

But...I'm vindictive, as I mentioned. No death penalty.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I've never been in prison either. But I know people that have been. Free room/board, free medical, free dental, free food, etc and most aren't locked in a cell all day alone. They have recreation time which includes basketball, weight lifting, handball, cable TV, etc.

All that paid for by tax payers, which include friends and family of the victim helps pay for all that free stuff they get.

Stop whining. We pay for things that we don't agree with here in the states, it happens.

 

[whirlingmerc]

‘Norwegian police said Sunday that a shooting at a mosque near Oslo is being treated as an "attempted act of terror" and that the suspected gunman harbours far-right, anti-immigrant views.

The suspect entered the mosque in the affluent Oslo suburb of Baerum on Saturday armed with multiple weapons and opened fire before being overpowered by a 65-year-old man who suffered minor injuries.

Hours after the attack, the body of a young woman was found in a home in Baerum and police on Sunday confirmed that it was the suspect's 17-year-old stepsister. Investigators launched a murder investigation into the death.’

Read more here: Norway mosque shooting an 'attempted act of terror', police say

These shootings are very sad.

 

[whirlingmerc]

‘Norwegian police said Sunday that a shooting at a mosque near Oslo is being treated as an "attempted act of terror" and that the suspected gunman harbours far-right, anti-immigrant views.

The suspect entered the mosque in the affluent Oslo suburb of Baerum on Saturday armed with multiple weapons and opened fire before being overpowered by a 65-year-old man who suffered minor injuries.

Hours after the attack, the body of a young woman was found in a home in Baerum and police on Sunday confirmed that it was the suspect's 17-year-old stepsister. Investigators launched a murder investigation into the death.’

Read more here: Norway mosque shooting an 'attempted act of terror', police say

These shootings are very sad.

 

[Revoltingest]

What's weird to me is that it seems I spend 50% of my time agreeing with you and 50% of my time thinking you're 100% wrong. This is one of those on the 'agree' side of the ledger.

If you'd just agree with me all the time,
life would be easier for you.
And there would be doggie treats.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I just wanted to add that I don't think even all murderers should be executed, just the psychopathic types who do it out of sadism or the terrorists. For example, I don't think the female serial killer Aileen Wuornos should have been executed. She was obviously mentally ill and had an extremely horrible life. She should've been placed in a mental institution and helped. I think what happened to her was an injustice, but I don't excuse what she did, either. But someone like Ted Bundy, who killed for fun and never took responsibility for his crimes? Fry 'em.

Frankie, I think you and I are of an accord on this. It would be a small minority of murderers for me, but some I'd prefer to be quickly and as humanely as possibly ended.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

These shootings are very sad.

It is. I'm thankful it didn't end up far worse.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I think i answered that already. If you kill someone then yes you are a murderer. Or should i call it killer.

If you kill someone, by definition you're a killer.
It's fine if you think all killers are bad. Some here won't agree, with me definitely being one.

Murder, on the other hand, is a legal definition society can determine.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The death penalty isn't really (or shouldn't really) be about punishment. It should be about removing a threat to innocent lives. As in...if the guy on death row would, if freed, go kill someone, then perhaps killing him is the best thing for everybody.

Me...I'm nastier than that. I do believe in punishment. I want people who deliberately commit murder to spend a very long time in a concrete cell. With nothing to do. Nobody to talk to. For the rest of, hopefully, a very long life.

I do NOT believe that a deliberate murderer (especially one whose motive is not , er, 'personal,' will ever be safe to let out on the streets, so something has to be done about him or her to make certain that opportunity never exists again. IMO, the death penalty is the easy way out.

But...I'm vindictive, as I mentioned. No death penalty.

It's not about punishment, it's about justice. I don't support psychological or physical torture.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I certainly agree. But you know, I also think sometimes people need to learn life lessons the hard way.

Brevik will never have any remorse for what he did. He's a psychopath and his diagnoses confirm that. So keeping him locked up isn't going to teach him anything.

 

[Spirit of Light]

If you kill someone, by definition you're a killer.
It's fine if you think all killers are bad. Some here won't agree, with me definitely being one.

Murder, on the other hand, is a legal definition society can determine.

A car accident don't make you a killer. if you shoot someone or put a knif in them and they die, then ou by definition is a killer

 

[Twilight Hue]

Brevik will never have any remorse for what he did. He's a psychopath and his diagnoses confirm that. So keeping him locked up isn't going to teach him anything.

True. But sometimes I think for other people to learn that lesson, is the simply release him when is time is up. Eventually he will go on a killing spree, and then people will learn their lesson the hard way. That's what I meant earlier about it.


While I abhor capital punishment, I have come to the conclusion that it has to be done sometimes.

I've known of no psychopath that has ever become reformed to my knowledge.

 

[Shad]

Norway should bring back the death penalty and life in prison.

Agreed.

 

[HonestJoe]

I don't care about the deterrent argument since there will always be killers, but it should an option to remove the monsters among us like Brevik.

So did he. You just have different opinions over which people should be "removed" for the good of society.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think i answered that already. If you kill someone then yes you are a murderer. Or should i call it killer.

A killer, not a murderer. Murder is the illegal taking of a life. If done legally by definition it is not murder.

I oppose the death penalty because it is impossible to undo in the case of an error. If one could be guaranteed that the person was guilty I might change my mind.