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Not a vegetarian anymore.

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It is true, I am no longer a strict vegetarian, meaning if I am away from my home i eat what food is served where I go.
Be it with friends, girlfriend or business, I do no longer bring my own food, or ask for special treatment about food i can or want to eat.

Why?
Because together with my doctors i found that my mental health did not improve as good as it should have when I was a vegetarian.
And my attachments to "can not eat meat" or " i must not eat meat" are gone :)

I eat Because I am hungry, not because I want certain food or don't want other form of food.
 

Vee

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I'm like you. Eat mostly vegetarian, but I'm flexible in other people's houses and restaurants that don't offer that option.
 

Sedim Haba

Outa here... bye-bye!
It is true, I am no longer a strict vegetarian, meaning if I am away from my home i eat what food is served where I go.
Be it with friends, girlfriend or business, I do no longer bring my own food, or ask for special treatment about food i can or want to eat.

Why?
Because together with my doctors i found that my mental health did not improve as good as it should have when I was a vegetarian.
And my attachments to "can not eat meat" or " i must not eat meat" are gone :)

I eat Because I am hungry, not because I want certain food or don't want other form of food.

I'm not a vegetarian, but have a similar issue. I do not eat mammals.This makes my life simpler,
as for me to eat meat requires extra care in slaughter and preparation that is not commonly
done. Most of the time I can find acceptable fish dishes in restaurants, which don't have such
concerns. However, when in other settings like you mentioned I will eat poultry. I'm unsure
if these have the standards I require but friends have served this food and know I do eat
poultry. I wish to not cause strife and yes I do I raise my own poultry and slaughter them
myself in proper way but I don't expect the same from them. (they got them in the store)
so for the sake of peace I acquiesce and say nothing, seeing they did try to accommodate.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It is true, I am no longer a strict vegetarian, meaning if I am away from my home i eat what food is served where I go.
Be it with friends, girlfriend or business, I do no longer bring my own food, or ask for special treatment about food i can or want to eat.

Why?
Because together with my doctors i found that my mental health did not improve as good as it should have when I was a vegetarian.
And my attachments to "can not eat meat" or " i must not eat meat" are gone :)

I eat Because I am hungry, not because I want certain food or don't want other form of food.
I've been saying it all along as qith others. We evolved as omnivores. Meat is essential for proper brain health.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Why?
Because together with my doctors i found that my mental health did not improve as good as it should have when I was a vegetarian.
Mental health improvement is subtle and improvement takes years, as we all know from deprogramming people who were brainwashed. So, I am not surprised it did not improve that fast. Because food, our diet, is the biggest attachment people have. It trumps even sex:D

I do hope you find improvement, and wish you the best in your search.

Mental health, as well as physical health makes life much easier. Though it's also intriquing to have our challenges, and very rewarding to solve our challenges:cool:
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Mental health improvement is subtle and improvement takes years, as we all know from deprogramming people who were brainwashed. So, I am not surprised it did not improve that fast. Because food, our diet, is the biggest attachment people have. It trumps even sex:D

I do hope you find improvement, and wish you the best in your search.

Mental health, as well as physical health makes life much easier. Though it's also intriquing to have our challenges, and very rewarding to solve our challenges:cool:
My mental struggle lasted more than 7 years since the accidents in the bus crash i was in. But probably it started in my childhood with being bullied, so yes, to become fully mental healthy do take time. It is only the last two months i have really seen faster progress. But that was also after months of speaking with professional mental doctors.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
And my attachments to "can not eat meat" or " i must not eat meat" are gone :)
Those seem to me not the right attachments to have to succeed in transitioning from non-veg into vegetarian.

I did not have those attachments, and I transitioned into vegetarian gradually and very slowly (took maybe 7 years or so, before I totally stopped eating animals).

Never underestimate (y)our attachments to food and habits linked to food, this is a major insight I learned.

Esp. because you (we) were brought up with that food from age ZERO. Very deep rooted attachments, many people fall back into old habits when trying to change diet (I know from my own experience also, trying to go vegan, raw food, fruitarian)
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Those seem to me not the right attachments to have to succeed in transitioning from non-veg into vegetarian.

I did not have those attachments, and I transitioned into vegetarian gradually and very slowly (took maybe 7 years or so, before I totally stopped eating animals).

Never underestimate (y)our attachments to food and habits linked to food, this is a major insight I learned.

Esp. because you (we) were brought up with that food from age ZERO. Very deep rooted attachments, many people fall back into old habits when trying to change diet (I know from my own experience also, trying to go vegan, raw food, fruitarian)
I believe that when one see food as nutrition for the body, and not craving certain Foods, one can eat anything.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I eat Because I am hungry, not because I want certain food or don't want other form of food.
For me it isn't about what I want, it's about what is best for me (what I need). And even that is quite a struggle or better challenge to figure out (lots of falling and getting up, lots of tweaking, because I have (too?) many challenges to tackle/handle
 

Sedim Haba

Outa here... bye-bye!
When I am at home i still eat mostly vegetarian food, and no i don't need meat personally, but if people prepare food with meat i can eat it.

Ya, that's the thing that only you can decide. What are the actual boundaries.

If someone gives me a cheezeburger or mysterymeat hotdog, sorry I cant eat it.
That there is a boundary I won't cross so I politely decline.
Someone hands me a hotdog with "here, chicken hotdog since I know you only do this"
I thank them gracefully and eat it.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I believe that when one see food as nutrition for the body, and not craving certain Foods, one can eat anything.
One can eat anything of course, but as the Wise have declared "let food be thy medicine"...it does have karmic reaction (consequences) what you eat:cool:.

Indeed "lack of craving food" is a very, very healthy ingredient:)

I studied Ayurveda. I learned a lot about the impact of diet on physical, emotional and mental health. Ayurveda is the best (most complete) Science in that regard.

And now I am "super" hungry, now I must eat first:)
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
When I am at home i still eat mostly vegetarian food, and no i don't need meat personally, but if people prepare food with meat i can eat it.
I follow the precept that I'll eat meat if it wasn't prepared for me exclusively. Essentially not having an animal killed just for me alone.

I guess it puts me in the category of a vulture essentially. :0]
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I follow the precept that I'll eat meat if it wasn't prepared for me exclusively. Essentially not having an animal killed just for me alone.

I guess it puts me in the category of a vulture essentially. :0]
Yes, I agree with you on this, I would never let animals be killed for me personally to make it possible to eat meat
 

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
It is true, I am no longer a strict vegetarian, meaning if I am away from my home i eat what food is served where I go.
Be it with friends, girlfriend or business, I do no longer bring my own food, or ask for special treatment about food i can or want to eat.

Why?
Because together with my doctors i found that my mental health did not improve as good as it should have when I was a vegetarian.
And my attachments to "can not eat meat" or " i must not eat meat" are gone :)

I eat Because I am hungry, not because I want certain food or don't want other form of food.

Fish oil is good for the brain. That's why I eat fish although it's technically against my religion. For vegetarians, supplements from algae oil are said to have the same effect, but I rather go for the real thing.

How Omega-3 Fish Oil Affects Your Brain and Mental Health
 

Sirona

Hindu Wannabe
I have not heard of this claim, that following a vegetarian diet leads to improved mental health. What evidence is there that it does?

The Hare Krishnas, for example, claim that a lacto-vegetarian diet helps to develop "the finer tissues of the brain", which are "required" to understand their religion.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I have not heard of this claim, that following a vegetarian diet leads to improved mental health. What evidence is there that it does?
I do not have personal evidence about it, but looking at example Buddhist monks who eat vegetarian food plus meditation they seem to be very well mental good.

And of course the reason for not killing animals has to be said to be a good cause to be vegetarian.
 

Secret Chief

Vetted Member
I do not have personal evidence about it, but looking at example Buddhist monks who eat vegetarian food plus meditation they seem to be very well mental good.

And of course the reason for not killing animals has to be said to be a good cause to be vegetarian.
Ok, but I meant scientific evidence of a causal link.
 
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