Now the concentration camps!!

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Well, that's clear as mud. Doesn't change the fact that these folks are not seeking 'asylum', they're demanding entry into the US.

Whatever you call it, if they get into the country, they're entitled to fair treatment and due process.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Apparently breaking the law doesn't seem to register with liberals.

Who's breaking the law?

 

[BSM1]

Whatever you call it, if they get into the country, they're entitled to fair treatment and due process.

They should not be allowed into this country without going through the proper channels, or having a true reason to seek asylum. Just because your country sucks is not basis for asylum. If they enter this country illegally then 'due process' should mean deportation or incarceration. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but we are a country of laws, and if laws are ignored then we have no country.

 

[BSM1]

Who's breaking the law?

They wish to enter this country illegally.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

They should not be allowed into this country without going through the proper channels, or having a true reason to seek asylum. Just because your country sucks is not basis for asylum. If they enter this country illegally then 'due process' should mean deportation or incarceration. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but we are a country of laws, and if laws are ignored then we have no country.

You are a country of laws; one of those laws says things like this:

1. No Contracting State shall expel or return (“refouler”) a refugee in any manner whatsoever to the frontiers of territories where his life or freedom would be threatened on account of his race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion.

The Contracting States shall as far as possible facilitate the assimilation and naturalization of refugees. They shall in particular make every effort to expedite naturalization proceedings and to reduce as far as possible the charges and costs of such proceedings.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

They wish to enter this country illegally.

No they don't.

They should not be allowed into this country without going through the proper channels, or having a true reason to seek asylum. Just because your country sucks is not basis for asylum. If they enter this country illegally then 'due process' should mean deportation or incarceration. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but we are a country of laws, and if laws are ignored then we have no country.

They are going through the proper channels. Seeking asylum is always done at a physical border or checkpoint.

And under threat of violence and abject poverty is a perfectly valid reasons to apply for asylum no matter what the empathy challenged right tell you. It's exactly why Irish migrants came, and they were told by some that their situation wasn't that bad too, as they were half starved and fleeing anti catholic persecution.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

They wish to enter this country illegally.

"1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence."

 

[Wu Wei]

Just have one thing to add and then I will co and never post in this thread again..... the term "Concentration Camp" is defined as

con·cen·tra·tion camp
/ˌkänsənˈtrāSHən ˈˌkamp/
noun
noun: concentration camp; plural noun: concentration camps

1. a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution.

 

[SkepticThinker]

But those tents aren’t for asylum seekers, they are for militant invaders. There’s a difference. Any of those in that truly want asylum have path to do so. Apply at one of the many U.S. consulates and apply for legal asylum status. Anyone seeking to come into the U.S. without authorization should be prevented from doing so.

And calling them “concentration camps” is flat out inaccurate and a mockery of those that have suffered in true concentration camps.

What's a "militant invader?"

 

[SkepticThinker]

They wish to enter this country illegally.

Who does and how do you know that?

 

[BSM1]

You are a country of laws; one of those laws says things like this:

These are not "refugees" by any stretch of the imagination. Nice try, though.

No they don't.

They are going through the proper channels. Seeking asylum is always done at a physical border or checkpoint.

And under threat of violence and abject poverty is a perfectly valid reasons to apply for asylum no matter what the empathy challenged right tell you. It's exactly why Irish migrants came, and they were told by some that their situation wasn't that bad too, as they were half starved and fleeing anti catholic persecution.

Yes they do.

Crashing the border of a sovereign country is not, by any stretch of the imagination, proper channels.

"1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence."

Again, does not apply to those wishing to illegally enter the US, re: contrived human caravan.

 

[BSM1]

Who does and how do you know that?

Seriously? You might want to educate yourself on the subject before replying.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Yes they do.

Crashing the border of a sovereign country is not, by any stretch of the imagination, proper channels

Once again, they literally cannot apply for asylum until they get here. They are no more 'crashing borders' than the Irish ships were.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Seriously? You might want to educate yourself on the subject before replying.

Pot, kettle.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Seriously? You might want to educate yourself on the subject before replying.

You are assuming that the people in the caravan wish to enter the US illegally. I'm wondering how you think you know that.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

These are not "refugees" by any stretch of the imagination. Nice try, though.

I thought you supported the law. Have you changed your mind?

Again, does not apply to those wishing to illegally enter the US, re: contrived human caravan.

I guess you missed the bit about "their illegal entry or presence."

 

[Brickjectivity]

I think we should allow immigration, however I think this whole things should not be used to justify and water down the evil of Hitler. He believed that might made right, and he tried to throw the world backward by four thousand years. Had he his way we would all be back to being slaves in heart and mind. Slavery would be typical again. Death and fear of death would be the tools of law with hangings and tortures once again the expected norm for petty crimes. Congenital diseases would be death sentences, too. Power would be centralized in cities which would regularly send out brute squads to suppress hope in surrounding areas. That's what we were facing in Hitler. Total darkness for thousands of years.

 

[BSM1]

I thought you supported the law. Have you changed your mind?


I guess you missed the bit about "their illegal entry or presence."

How 'bout you inviting them over to your country. Offer to pay the travel expenses and see how many bite. If I'm not mistaken you live somewhere in Great Britain. We certainly see how taking in everyone that said "open up" has worked out for you guys.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

How 'bout you inviting them over to your country. Offer to pay the travel expenses and see how many bite.

Canada did that in an organized way most recently with Syrian refugees. A lot accepted; Canada is preferable to a war zone.

If I'm not mistaken you live somewhere in Great Britain.

Canada.

We certainly see how taking in everyone that said "open up" has worked out for you guys.

It's been absolutely horrific:

Despite challenges, Syrian refugee opens Windsor restaurant | CBC News

Syrian refugees in Canada restart the businesses they left behind

 

[Audie]

People brushing off Trumps comparison to Hitler are in for a new surprise, massive tent city concentration camps to detain immigrant asylum seekers at the US border, What an evil man he is.

Trump says he will hold asylum-seekers from Central America in massive tent cities

STARTING with a Godwin?
Godwin's law - Wikipedia

Just a couple of q's.

What would virtually every other do?

Would-if you could-you pave a highway and
with shuttle buses, or maybe a railroad, all the
way to Venezuela? All aboard! Come one, come
all?

Or shuttle boats to Africa. To anywhere, Asia.

No limits, no restrictions. Why not?

AND

How do you feel about the thousands of people
waiting waiting waiting to come in legally? The
ones who never ever will be able to, because, well,
they did not break the law.

Oh, and do you feel that laws are made to be broken?
Do we just void all immigration laws, or,just the,
what?