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O Muslims, why do not you eat pork ?

leibowde84

Veteran Member
The most pathogenic of the Trichinosis worm :

T. spiralis is most adapted to swine, most pathogenic in humans and is cosmopolitan in distribution.
Trichinosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The ways to prevent this parasite it to raise pigs in clean conditions and reliably cook it to 160 degrees.
The first just was not known or practical, and the second was unreliable. They did not know what 160 degrees was and had no thermometers, nor did they realize there was a parasite in need of being cooked to death.

BTW I do not claim to know this. I ran across it somewhere and it made sense so I often suggest it may explain the pork issue. It could be a combination of two things. The health issue and to set Jewish people apart from the rest of the local cultures and not eating pigs would have been a two for one.
Great response!! Very true. Sure, they could potentially heat something to 160 degrees, but they would have had no way of knowing whether they had done so.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
The most pathogenic of the Trichinosis worm :

T. spiralis is most adapted to swine, most pathogenic in humans and is cosmopolitan in distribution.
Trichinosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The ways to prevent this parasite it to raise pigs in clean conditions and reliably cook it to 160 degrees.
The first just was not known or practical, and the second was unreliable. They did not know what 160 degrees was and had no thermometers, nor did they realize there was a parasite in need of being cooked to death.

BTW I do not claim to know this. I ran across it somewhere and it made sense so I often suggest it may explain the pork issue. It could be a combination of two things. The health issue and to set Jewish people apart from the rest of the local cultures and not eating pigs would have been a two for one.

Yeah, I get this. But the problem here is that we are pretending that pork is an exception from any other meat. More people die to beef related illnesses a year than they do pork illnesses.

The ancients didn't know anything about temperature, but not only does pork have to be cooked to a certain temperature to be safe, the same is true for any other meat, and plenty of plants as well.

Which is why it doesn't really make too much sense.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Ground beef and ground chicken cause more hospitalizations than other meats in the American food supply, a new report finds.

An analysis by the consumer advocacy group the Center for Science in Public Interest that looked at more than 33,000 cases of foodborne illness also showed that

chicken nuggets, ham and sausage pose the lowest risk of foodborne illness for Americans.

The nonprofit used U.S. government data on 1,700 outbreaks over 12 years to analyze salmonella, E. coli, listeria and other pathogens that were definitively linked to a certain meat.

"Outbreaks from ground beef and chicken are reported frequently, and all too often cause debilitating illnesses--illnesses that lead to hospitalization," CSPI food safety director Caroline Smith DeWaal, said in a written statement.

To calculate which meats were riskiest, CSPI ranked the foods in which contamination was most likely to cause hospitalizations.

For example, about one quarter of people sickened with the salmonella bacteria are hospitalized, according to DeWaal. Most people recover without treatment after four to seven days.

Some meats in the CSPI's study may have caused more foodborne illnesses than ground beef and chicken, but were less likely to cause severe illness.

After ground beef and chicken, CSPI categorized turkey and steak and other forms of beef as "high risk" and deli meat, pork, roast beef and barbequed meats as "medium risk."

Salmonella and E. coli, pathogens that contaminate meat and poultry during slaughter and processing, accounted for about one third of the total illnesses surveyed. Clostridium perfringens, a lesser-known pathogen that usually grows after processing when foods are left at improper temperatures for too long by consumers or food establishments, accounted for another third.

While a large number of chicken illnesses were due to clostridium perfringens, chicken led to many hospitalizations partly because of the high incidence of salmonella in chicken that isn't properly cooked.

Ground beef, chicken more likely to cause severe foodborne illnesses in U.S. - CBS News
 

Eliab ben Benjamin

Active Member
Premium Member
Oops, sorry, I forgot you're not Australian.
Yabby is cray(crow)fish in Australian :)
Shell fish is not prohibited in Islam :)

Fresh water crayfish from what i was told when i worked in Aussie ...
looked smaller than an ocean Crayfish ...

And yes no shellfish in Judaism either ... besides i am vegetarian :) ..
(though i will cook flesh meals for visitors ... Kosher of course ;) )
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Lol, equation ??? was not meant to be one .. i have spare rooms cos i live with just my Cat
(who is in charge.. lol) in a 5 bedroom house, 10 min from the hospital where i work
(on call 24/7)
I was joking for the formation the numbers and the variable in the post :D

Fresh water crayfish from what i was told when i worked in Aussie ...
looked smaller than an ocean Crayfish ...

And yes no shellfish in Judaism either ... besides i am vegetarian :) ..
(though i will cook flesh meals for visitors ... Kosher of course ;) )
I thought "Aussie" was an adjective for Australians, and doesn't mean Australia!
(Shut up, me) Ehhm.... :D

Yes, they are a smaller version of the real lobster that has claws. Salt water also has a sub species called spiny lobster that has no claws but full of spines (spiny!). Salt water crayfish can also be called lobster but dunno why fresh water ones aren't.

Well, works for me :D

You're welcome to dinner here anytime love. And I have a couch too. Plus...I am a really good cook.
Gosh... you're too kind :blush:
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
I was joking for the formation the numbers and the variable in the post :D


I thought "Aussie" was an adjective for Australians, and doesn't mean Australia!
(Shut up, me) Ehhm.... :D

Yes, they are a smaller version of the real lobster that has claws. Salt water also has a sub species called spiny lobster that has no claws but full of spines (spiny!). Salt water crayfish can also be called lobster but dunno why fresh water ones aren't.

Well, works for me :D


Gosh... you're too kind :blush:
Thanks. I firmly believe that what you give out to the world and friends comes back to you in kind. And why not be nice to each other? Its refreshing.
 
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