Obama: Christians need to act more like Pope Francis

[Vouthon]

Yes, I know, another politician is using the pope for political means but at least they are good ones this time:

Obama: Christians need to act more like Pope Francis | Crux

Obama: Christians need to act more like Pope Francis

WASHINGTON — When it comes to fighting poverty, President Barack Obama wants American Christians to act a lot more like Pope Francis.

Obama called Francis “transformative,” saying the pope’s “insistence” that fighting poverty be at the heart of the Christian life has made him a global icon.

“That emphasis is why he’s had such incredible appeal, including to young people all around the world, and I hope it’s a message everyone receives when he comes to visit,” Obama said Tuesday, referring to the pope’s September visit to the United States.

During that trip, Francis will address a joint session of Congress and give a talk on the environment at the United Nations. Obama met with Francis at the Vatican in 2014, but this will be the Argentine pontiff’s first visit to the United States.

“When I think about my own Christian faith and my obligations,” Obama said, “it’s important for me to think what I can do myself, like individually mentor young people or make charitable donations.”

But he said it’s also important for Christian communities “to have a voice in the larger debate.”

The politics of Christianity, Obama said, have tended to focus around a narrow set of issues, such as abortion. He said he hopes that changes in time for the 2016 election.

“It would be powerful for our faith based organizations to speak out on this in a more forceful fashion,” he said.

Obama was speaking at an anti-poverty summit of Evangelical and Catholic leaders at Georgetown University.​

 

[Lyndon]

The "Obama is a Muslim" crowd sure isn't going to like this one!!

 

[Iti oj]

Yes, I know, another politician is using the pope for political means but at least they are good ones this time:

Obama: Christians need to act more like Pope Francis | Crux

Obama: Christians need to act more like Pope Francis

WASHINGTON — When it comes to fighting poverty, President Barack Obama wants American Christians to act a lot more like Pope Francis.

Obama called Francis “transformative,” saying the pope’s “insistence” that fighting poverty be at the heart of the Christian life has made him a global icon.

“That emphasis is why he’s had such incredible appeal, including to young people all around the world, and I hope it’s a message everyone receives when he comes to visit,” Obama said Tuesday, referring to the pope’s September visit to the United States.

During that trip, Francis will address a joint session of Congress and give a talk on the environment at the United Nations. Obama met with Francis at the Vatican in 2014, but this will be the Argentine pontiff’s first visit to the United States.

“When I think about my own Christian faith and my obligations,” Obama said, “it’s important for me to think what I can do myself, like individually mentor young people or make charitable donations.”

But he said it’s also important for Christian communities “to have a voice in the larger debate.”

The politics of Christianity, Obama said, have tended to focus around a narrow set of issues, such as abortion. He said he hopes that changes in time for the 2016 election.

“It would be powerful for our faith based organizations to speak out on this in a more forceful fashion,” he said.

Obama was speaking at an anti-poverty summit of Evangelical and Catholic leaders at Georgetown University.​

I nearly tagged you in this thread. lol Then i checked and saw you posted it.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Oh, so another in the parade of opportunistic liars and political whores using the image of a religious figure to sell their agendas which they themselves don't believe in. Typical.

 

[Iti oj]

Oh, so another in the parade of opportunistic liars and political whores using the image of a religious figure to sell their agendas which they themselves don't believe in. Typical.

amen


Edit. wow even more cynical then me

 

[lovemuffin]

Frank: may I ask what it is that Obama has said or done that persuades you that he doesn't genuinely agree with the Pope about the problem of poverty? I mean, I think it should be granted that he does so with his own agenda also in mind, but I'm perplexed about why it is you think he doesn't actually believe in that agenda.

 

[metis]

I think it's morally commendable that a civic leader recognizes and praises other leaders, religious or not, who believe in compassion and justice.

 

[Revoltingest]

Oh, so another in the parade of opportunistic liars and political whores using the image of a religious figure to sell their agendas which they themselves don't believe in. Typical.

You silver tongued devil.....er, saint!
I'd hope that the Pope would be more like my Xian friends.

 

[Iti oj]

You silver tongued devil.....er, saint!
I'd hope that the Pope would be more like my Xian friends.

you mean not a socialist?

 

[Lyndon]

Frank: may I ask what it is that Obama has said or done that persuades you that he doesn't genuinely agree with the Pope about the problem of poverty? I mean, I think it should be granted that he does so with his own agenda also in mind, but I'm perplexed about why it is you think he doesn't actually believe in that agenda.

Could it be something to do with the belief that Obama is Muslim and couldn't possibly support Christianity.

 

[Revoltingest]

you mean not a socialist?

Weird....that was actually one of my thoughts.
Tis like we share one brain!

 

[Iti oj]

Weird....that was actually one of my thoughts.
Tis like we share one brain!

which is more then any one assumed either of us had.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Frank: may I ask what it is that Obama has said or done that persuades you that he doesn't genuinely agree with the Pope about the problem of poverty? I mean, I think it should be granted that he does so with his own agenda also in mind, but I'm perplexed about why it is you think he doesn't actually believe in that agenda.

Well, he's a politician and actually made it into the White House. That right there is a good sign that he's a liar. If he actually did anything to shake things up, he'd be assassinated by now. It's business as usual.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Could it be something to do with the belief that Obama is Muslim and couldn't possibly support Christianity.

What the hell are you rambling about?

 

[JRMcC]

I think it's pretty clear that republican politics and Christian values don't fit very well together. So it makes sense that Obama would point that out.

 

[Debater Slayer]

In other words, Obama wants more Christians to be sad, homophobic old bigots? Yeah, that's beautiful.

 

[Revoltingest]

In other words, Obama wants more Christians to be sad, homophobic old bigots? Yeah, that's beautiful.

What's wrong with being old?
I hope to spend a whole lotta time that way.
You should be so lucky!

 

[GoodbyeDave]

In other words, Obama wants more Christians to be sad, homophobic old bigots? Yeah, that's beautiful.

So here's a quote on homosexuals from the Pope

If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?

So who's the bigot, you or Francis? And how did homosexuality get into the original question?

 

[gsa]

So here's a quote on homosexuals from the Pope

So who's the bigot, you or Francis? And how did homosexuality get into the original question?

Francis remains anti-gay; he called same-sex marriage the work of Satan. That quote is misunderstood, as he was discussing a so-called "gay lobby" in the Vatican:

The pope was asked about what has been described as a "gay lobby" in the Vatican, allegedly a group of priests and bishops who work at the Vatican and protect each other. Pope Francis said it was important to "distinguish between a person who is gay and someone who makes a gay lobby."

"A gay person who is seeking God, who is of good will -- well, who am I to judge him?" the pope said. "The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this very well. It says one must not marginalize these persons, they must be integrated into society. The problem isn't this (homosexual) orientation -- we must be like brothers and sisters. The problem is something else, the problem is lobbying either for this orientation or a political lobby or a Masonic lobby."

Although the question to the pope was about gay Vatican employees, the pope's response was not specifically about priests who are homosexual, a question addressed in 2005 by the Congregation for Catholic Education, which was in charge of seminaries at the time.

On the church's anti-gay positions, Pope Francis has changed nothing substantively. As far as I know, men with "deep seated homosexual tendencies" or who support "gay culture" are still prohibited from entry into the priesthood, celibacy notwithstanding. The church continues to oppose any recognition of same-sex relationships. The church still teaches it is a grave sin. Pope Francis still says these things publicly.

 

[Debater Slayer]

So here's a quote on homosexuals from the Pope

So who's the bigot, you or Francis? And how did homosexuality get into the original question?

See here:

Pope Francis criticizes gay marriage, backs ban on contraception | Crux

I brought up his homophobia because Obama's comment seemed to imply that it would be a good thing if more Christians were like the Pope. I don't think the Pope is a good example to follow at all given his bigotry.