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Obama's betrayal of liberalism

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
This smacks of mere partisan bigotry. When Obama, Biden & McCain were completely lacking in any business or managerial experience whatsoever, it is shallow to simply dismiss Palin, who at least has run a sizable organization in her career. As we now see, Obama was also completely unprepared
for a job as demanding as prez.

If you say so. I still stand by my claims. That Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, among others, turn out to be significant names in the current American Politics scene says a lot about how hard it is to make the current system work without menacing itself.

This was knowable beforehand, but voters are simply charmed by the candidate with the biggest promises & gift of gab, albeit teleprompter & speech writer dependent. And what of foot-in-mouth Biden? Do you honestly believe that he is more presidential than Palin?

Heck, I am more presidential than Palin.

America is just a junior high school writ large.


Apparently so.
 

tomato1236

Ninja Master
I think Sarah Palin as president would be like someone waterskiing for the first time. She'd be holding on for dear life while following the boat wherever it goes. Not to mention crashing a few times.

I don't really understand how anyone who has seen her interview would have any kind of hope that she would be a competent president, or that other nations would see us in a better light with her at its head. I think it's more likely she would bring out the laughable qualities of the USA, much like Bush did. This is not to say anything about either of their policies. I'm just talking about putting apes and defensive soccer-moms in charge of the country.
 

no-body

Well-Known Member
It dosen't surprised me that there are people out there that think that Palin could do a respectable job when Reagan is still viewed as a good president rather than a treasonous scumbag and Carter is still vilified.

As for Obama I only voted for him because I didn't want Cotton and Peggy Hill as president. The fact that the right can smear him as a socialist liberal and have it stick says a lot, he's a very conservative guy and I've always assumed that's the reason he won not because of signs saying "hope and change" or because he's black
 

tomato1236

Ninja Master
I didn't vote for McCain because from beneath all his words seemed to hum, "I don't know much about much, but what I do know is that war and killing is awesome, and I want to blow up as many people and as much stuff as possible."

This is good for movies, but not for presidencies.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'm sorry. I wasn't the one who started this by calling what Luis said "partisan bigotry". And now you're going to try to deflect by calling me out on ad hominems? Wow.
You decided to jump into the fray.

Look, it's really simple. Obama might not have done the best job in the two years he's been in his position, but he's not a moron. If you really think he's as bad or worse than Palin, there's something wrong with you. That's not due to Kool-Aid, and I'm not getting angry. It's due to rational thinking and your nonsense gets tiring sometimes.
And again, there's no argument to be had. Palin is a moron, and Obama isn't. That is painfully obvious to anyone paying attention.
So you rely on the argument of personal obviousness, eh?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I didn't vote for McCain because from beneath all his words seemed to hum, "I don't know much about much, but what I do know is that war and killing is awesome, and I want to blow up as many people and as much stuff as possible."
This is good for movies, but not for presidencies.
Funny....I had the same impression of him.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Heck, I am more presidential than Palin.
You're more presidential than McCain, Obama & Biden too!

This whole business of saying Palin is an idiot just strikes me as an empty insult
which entertains the left. To say it without cogent argument still looks bigoted.
 

no-body

Well-Known Member
You're more presidential than McCain, Obama & Biden too!

This whole business of saying Palin is an idiot just strikes me as an empty insult
which entertains the left. To say it without cogent argument still looks bigoted.

McCain, Obama and Biden can't name any magazines they read either?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
McCain, Obama and Biden can't name any magazines they read either?
Naming magazines is an odd criterion to focus upon, much like statements about the number of states.
If one hates someone, & cherry picks criteria to select against that someone, it has no meaning.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
This whole business of saying Palin is an idiot just strikes me as an empty insult which entertains the left. To say it without cogent argument still looks bigoted.

I only wish it were an idle insult to state the most obvious fact in politics today: Palin is significantly below average in intelligence and/or wisdom. I only wish it were an idle insult because the truth is downright scary: Despite her great lack of intelligence and wisdom, she has found millions of like-minded simpletons to follow her.
 

Smoke

Done here.
This whole business of saying Palin is an idiot just strikes me as an empty insult
which entertains the left. To say it without cogent argument still looks bigoted.
I wasn't aware you'd been living in a cave for the last three years.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I only wish it were an idle insult to state the most obvious fact in politics today: Palin is significantly below average in intelligence and/or wisdom. I only wish it were an idle insult because the truth is downright scary: Despite her great lack of intelligence and wisdom, she has found millions of like-minded simpletons to follow her.
Yet another argument devoid of anything other than insult.
Do you focus upon Palin in order to avoid the embarrassment of Obama?
Tis truly a sin that he makes her look savvy.

I wasn't aware you'd been living in a cave for the last three years.
And living on pickanick baskets I stole from the campers.
 
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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
You're more presidential than McCain, Obama & Biden too!

I will readily grant McCain, but I am not quite that deluded about Obama and Biden yet.

This whole business of saying Palin is an idiot just strikes me as an empty insult
which entertains the left. To say it without cogent argument still looks bigoted.
Well, have you actually listened to her? She is her own Poe.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I will readily grant McCain, but I am not quite that deluded about Obama and Biden yet.

Well, have you actually listened to her? She is her own Poe.
But I find Obama equally vapid....& far more dishonest.
Neither is presidential material for me, even if they favored my agenda.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Really? It surprises me, it really does.
I initially thought Obama was smart. But as time went by, I just didn't see that he learned from experience. Palin, OTOH, fully exploits opportunities & seems to learn well.
Note: I wouldn't vote for her.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Being an opportunist doesn't make Palin smart. Although I will grant that it says something about her supporters.
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
I`m not exactly happy with Obama myself but I think there`s a little political amnesia going on here when I here him being referred to as "Bush III".

You`ve got to be kidding.
 
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