Observers not allowed to monitor the vote count by the Democrats.

[TagliatelliMonster]

It appears Covid distancing is the excuse being used. At least your the first here to address the op question.

Covid is not an "excuse". It is instead a very big and real problem, which has cost more american lives then the vietnam and korean wars combined.

I suggest you act like an adult and stop drinking the kool-aid given to you by the big man-child.

 

[Left Coast]

Trump, as usual, is completely full of ****:

AP FACT CHECK: Trump fabricates election corruption

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Well I'm sure Trump is doing this for more than just wanting to know the truth, but his point is valid when it comes to there needing to be more transparency when it comes to poll watchers and other issues involving mail-in ballots.

Why would you say that Trump wants to know the truth here?

Doing this of course can lead to Biden winning. But the main point of a member here, Twilight Hue, started this thread asking if it's questionable that people wanted less transparency and the answer to that should be yes.

That's not how I read the OP. To me, @Twilight Hue made a veiled but pretty obvious allegation that Democrats were engaging in voter fraud.

Of course, he did it in a JAQing off way, but the implication is clear enough.

Here's the lack of transparency I'm referring to:
"They are still not being compliant," Bondi said. She claimed that barriers were moved close to election counting but ballot machines were moved further back to prevent observers from monitoring."
Trump campaign claims Philadelphia defying court-ordered election observation


If there is no cheating going on, then why limit safeguards that would ensure that ballots are valid?

Think for a minute. Why - in the middle of a pandemic - would a workplace keep people physically distanced?

BTW: can you tell me what PA law actually says about how close election observers are supposed to be able to get to the poll workers they're observing?

When it comes to evidence of actual cheating, I posted a video of Trump's lawyers saying they have evidence. They are in the process of gathering more so they can build a case.

And you believe them?

How about the evidence that Trump's team has been engaging in voter suppression throughout this election process? Why would you assume that this tactic now isn't just part of that?

 

[shunyadragon]

The problem is that Trump and his followers are sore losers.

It is more dangerous than just being being a 'sore loser' Trump has advocate violence against those that disagree with him since he began to run for election.

An interesting fact is that Trump paid people to attend his rallies when he first started to run for election in the last election.

 

[shunyadragon]

Trump campaign claims Philadelphia defying court-ordered election observation

Trump can claim the moon is made of blue cheese. All the rodents will agree hands (paws) down.

 

[shunyadragon]

Thanks, that’s what I wanted to hear.

Still no independent source forthcoming. Anecdotal personal claims have no merit.

 

[shunyadragon]

A big deal has been made about the potential of a Supreme Court ruling on late ballots in Pennsylvania. The reality is these ballots are not presently being counted and are set aside. The number is only ~10.000 ballots. Party affiliation is unknown, and It is possible that they could be mostly Republican ballots. Basically no impact on the outcome of the Pennsylvania count.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well I'm sure Trump is doing this for more than just wanting to know the truth, but his point is valid when it comes to there needing to be more transparency when it comes to poll watchers and other issues involving mail-in ballots. Doing this of course can lead to Biden winning. But the main point of a member here, Twilight Hue, started this thread asking if it's questionable that people wanted less transparency and the answer to that should be yes.

Here's the lack of transparency I'm referring to:
"They are still not being compliant," Bondi said. She claimed that barriers were moved close to election counting but ballot machines were moved further back to prevent observers from monitoring."
Trump campaign claims Philadelphia defying court-ordered election observation


If there is no cheating going on, then why limit safeguards that would ensure that ballots are valid?

When it comes to evidence of actual cheating, I posted a video of Trump's lawyers saying they have evidence. They are in the process of gathering more so they can build a case.

All the OP did was regurgitate Trump's crap after his national embarrassment of a speech throwing all sorts of serious accusations entirely free of evidence to back up his claims. Why are mail-in votes majorly benefiting Biden the orange doofus wonders? Could it be anything to do with all that he told his voters to vote in person and to avoid mail-in voting?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Why do people still believe anything Trump says???

 

[SkepticThinker]

So why are Democrats blocking observers?

They're not.

 

[Watchmen]

Evidence?

Declaration of the observer in Philly.

 

[SkepticThinker]

No. Just stating that Democrats might be up to something like usual.

Yeah, totally. That must be why they lost all those House seats and didn't take the Senate. Because Democrats are "up to something." The fix is in!

Come on with this nonsense.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Then why is Trump stating otherwise?

Because he's a pathological LIAR.

(And a sore loser.)

 

[SkepticThinker]

Fact Check:
Governor Tom Wolf is a Republican.

Verdict:
That is false. He's a democrat.


Fact Check:
We're in a pandemic, therefore workers should be 6 ft. apart.

Verdict:
It is true that we're in a pandemic, but workers can be in close contact at times, and I would think those times would be for important matters, like a presidential election and ensuring its integrity! Notice when there are protests, these same Democrat governors don't worry about social distancing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/06/covid-missouri-poll-worker-died-election/

 

[SkepticThinker]

You know, it would be great if these kind of things had unlimited public access. Like a viewing floor that does not interfere with the people counting.

Why would poll attendees block off windows and doors so they can't see inside? People are naturally going to think something is rotten in Denmark there.

How about broadcasting the process?

Vote count livestreams are here to stay
Watch ballots being counted live around the US



I have to ask, where do you get your news from, and why are you so ill informed?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Trump goes off no doubt, but one thing I noticed that there is some truth associated with things he's says to a greater extent. As the left likes to say, "If there is nothing to hide, then there is nothing to worry about".

In a pandemic with a disease that's spread through the air, there's nothing to worry about when some random person whose health status is unknown stands next to you? Are you serious?

And same question for you: can you tell me what PA law actually says about how close election observers are supposed to be able to get to the poll workers they're observing?

 

[Left Coast]

***MOD POST***

Oooooookay everyone.

Take a breath.

This is, obviously, a highly charged topic. However, please bear the site rules in mind.

Accusing other members of lying is against site rules. In debate, you can tell people that they are incorrect, preferably with some supporting evidence. Accusations of lying, however, are considered personal attacks. Similarly, telling people they are stupid, ignorant, amoral, or Raiders fans is off limits. (Okay, I made up that last one.) Criticize beliefs, not each other personally.

Thank you!

 

[Twilight Hue]

I have to ask, where do you get your news from, and why are you so ill informed?

It happened in Detroit Michigan by voting officials. Protesters were regarded as disruptive and they blocked the windows as a solution to the disruption.

There’s a Simple Reason Workers Covered Windows at a Detroit Vote-Counting Site

 

[SomeRandom]

It is more dangerous than just being being a 'sore loser' Trump has advocate violence against those that disagree with him since he began to run for election.

An interesting fact is that Trump paid people to attend his rallies when he first started to run for election in the last election.

Wait, really?
I remember our nightly news subtly condemning Trump for holding rallies after we all shut down due to COVID. I say subtly only because they have to be indifferent when reporting the news stories. So you had to sort of read between the lines.
Incidentally the news didn’t speak favourably of Trump’s handling of the election results lol
Good god, even our news regards him as a toddler pitching a fit at this point

 

[Subduction Zone]

It happened in Detroit Michigan by voting officials. Protesters were regarded as disruptive and they blocked the windows as a solution to the disruption.

There’s a Simple Reason Workers Covered Windows at a Detroit Vote-Counting Site

They were videoing illegally. Only the media and certain groups can film at polling and counting sites. If the media violate the privacy of someone there will be a lawsuit and they have the funds to make amends. Your average reactionary . . . not so much.