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Observers not allowed to monitor the vote count by the Democrats.

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I have nothing to prove. You made the claim. You have to back it up.

I did. Or are you also calling me a liar that I made up things going on in my own state? What would you know about it anyway? How would you know what is a valid and reliable source anyway? I mean since you don’t live here or know anything about us.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I did. Or are you also calling me a liar that I made up things going on in my own state? What would you know about it anyway? How would you know what is a valid and reliable source anyway? I mean since you don’t live here or know anything about us.
Local newspapers are usually pretty good. I furnished those whenever I made claims about some of the outlandish behaviors in Indiana. Like bad police behaviors, I linked to a cop who threatened to shoot a mayor, a cop who tased an elderly man with Alzheimer's, and the Indianapolis police trying to cover up for a cop who was driving drunk while on duty and he killed another motorist. So when I complained about local police behavior I could support my claims, because I could have just been running my mouth and making things up.
That's why evidence is so important.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Its not my absurd claims. I'm just asking a question why Democrats are trying to keep people out.
They already had observers. They didn't need an unruly mob of buffoons with an agenda barging in and crowding the place. Useless dopes wouldn't even know or understand what they were looking at anyway.
 

AgnosticGuy

Open-minded skeptic
Mass mail in voting is far from "new". We have had it since 2011. And before that a person could opt for mail in status since 1983. Fraud has not been a problem. Fraud does not appear to be a problem in this election. Do you have any evidence of fraud?
I don't have any evidence of fraud in regards to mail-in ballots, but again, the fact that it hasn't happened in the past does not mean that it can't happen at all. Look, here's the strongest case that I've been able to find that for potential fraud in the 2020 presidential election:
(Rudy Guiliani makes the case).

Here's another factor to consider. One thing I will be looking for is the rejection rate of mail-in ballots because there are reports that hundreds of thousands of these types of ballots usually get rejected because of errors. If the rate of rejection for the 2020 election for a particular state is less than that of previous elections involving mail in ballots, then that alone would be questionable.

"In the 2018 General Election, the number of mail-in ballots topped 42 million, with about 30 million returned. But rejection rates also increased dramatically as election officials tossed out more than 425,000 mail-in ballots -- about one in every seven ballots returned. Again, signature issues were cited for the largest portion of rejections."
750,000 mail-in ballots were rejected in 2016 and 2018. Here's why that matters.


For instance, if any of the highly contested states, like Pennsylvania, had little to no rejected mail-in ballots (esp. if it was for a particular candidate), wouldn't that be suspicious?

*Also, please keep in mind that I'm an Independent. I don't "support" either of your parties, but rather I support certain policies. I vote for whoever has the most policy I can agree with irrespective of their party.



 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Because he's Trump, and constantly making **** up is what he's known for? Hello? Where the hell have you been?
Trump goes off no doubt, but one thing I noticed that there is some truth associated with things he's says to a greater extent. As the left likes to say, "If there is nothing to hide, then there is nothing to worry about".
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Sounds like judge ordered that penn had to allow republicans to monitor vote count but sheriff refused to enforce and elections office says it could take a long time to review the order.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I don't have any evidence of fraud in regards to mail-in ballots, but again, the fact that it hasn't happened in the past does not mean that it can't happen at all. Look, here's the strongest case that I've been able to find that for potential fraud in the 2020 presidential election:
(Rudy Guiliani makes the case).

Here's another factor to consider. One thing I will be looking for is the rejection rate of mail-in ballots because there are reports that hundreds of thousands of these types of ballots usually get rejected because of errors. If the rate of rejection for the 2020 election for a particular state is less than that of previous elections involving mail in ballots, then that alone would be questionable.

"In the 2018 General Election, the number of mail-in ballots topped 42 million, with about 30 million returned. But rejection rates also increased dramatically as election officials tossed out more than 425,000 mail-in ballots -- about one in every seven ballots returned. Again, signature issues were cited for the largest portion of rejections."
750,000 mail-in ballots were rejected in 2016 and 2018. Here's why that matters.

For instance, if any of the highly contested states, like Pennsylvania, had little to no rejected mail-in ballots (esp. if it was for a particular candidate), wouldn't that be suspicious?

*Also, please keep in mind that I'm an Independent. I don't "support" either of your parties, but rather I support certain policies. I vote for whoever has the most policy I can agree with irrespective of their party.


So no evidence at all. Rejection of a ballot is not evidence of fraud.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I live in NJ and know our politics. Now, you prove me wrong and back up your challenge. Can you do that for me? Yeah no, I didn’t think so.
I read a blog post that was provided here, it was how this author, who lives in rural Indiana, feels the state has changed slowly over the years. He lives there.
But I was able to provide evidence it's not changing but really is just the same crappy, high-prejudiced state it has always been. Because what I know of the state said otherwise.
This is why we need evidence.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Christ alive. This election is more dramatic than a soap opera

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I had to watch Trump's speech today, because I knew nothing else like that would ever happen again.
It affirmed why I don't watch that many TV shows or movies. But it was made worse because Trump sounded like a child who just gained competence in reading out loud.
 
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