Occultism

[1137]

I was just talking about this in my DIR; the only thing that is objectively real is that all reality is just vibrating energy. Energy makes up everything, we are energy, therefore we create our Selves. You choose what is true in your own, subjective, personal, spiritual reality. Some things are more useful than others. If you make the truth that you need to be a submissive follower to Christ, and the only way to heaven is through him, that is good for you. But, it accomplishes less than empowering yourself and rising to a higher level, in this case the level of what you call God.

If you need to be a submissive, mere human being, that is what you will come back into Being as. If you are a God of your own universe, that is what you will come back into Being as.

 

[Iti oj]

I was just talking about this in my DIR; the only thing that is objectively real is that all reality is just vibrating energy. Energy makes up everything, we are energy, therefore we create our Selves. You choose what is true in your own, subjective, personal, spiritual reality. Some things are more useful than others. If you make the truth that you need to be a submissive follower to Christ, and the only way to heaven is through him, that is good for you. But, it accomplishes less than empowering yourself and rising to a higher level, in this case the level of what you call God.

If you need to be a submissive, mere human being, that is what you will come back into Being as. If you are a God of your own universe, that is what you will come back into Being as.

i can confer this just happened. i would add you can use many truths since they are only subjective =D

 

[1137]

i can confer this just happened. i would add you can use many truths since they are only subjective =D

Haha yeah, today's discussions with you have helped my own personal understanding more. The funny thing is it is stuff I always believe, but somehow forget. That just makes re-Self-realization even better.

 

[Iti oj]

Haha yeah, today's discussions with you have helped my own personal understanding more. The funny thing is it is stuff I always believe, but somehow forget. That just makes re-Self-realization even better.

actualy you have helped me too. mata has requested "lessons" in my version of seekers chaos magic and i was a bit lost on where to start or how to speak my first "lesson" was a disaster but now i feel a bit ordered ahah chaos magic ordered ahha

 

[1137]

actualy you have helped me too. mata has requested "lessons" in my version of seekers chaos magic and i was a bit lost on where to start or how to speak my first "lesson" was a disaster but now i feel a bit ordered ahah chaos magic ordered ahha

Haha, we've created meaning in the chaos. A miracle. We are Gods

 

[Iti oj]

Haha, we've created meaning in the chaos. A miracle. We are Gods

*fist bumps doors*
ive always likened it to refining the chaos =D its crude oil and like an oil slick techno colored in the light

 

[InChrist]

Haha yeah, today's discussions with you have helped my own personal understanding more. The funny thing is it is stuff I always believe, but somehow forget. That just makes re-Self-realization even better.

Or the Self-deception even worse...

 

[1137]

Or the Self-deception even worse...

Don't worry about that, our conversation is here:

I was just talking about this in my DIR; the only thing that is objectively real is that all reality is just vibrating energy. Energy makes up everything, we are energy, therefore we create our Selves. You choose what is true in your own, subjective, personal, spiritual reality. Some things are more useful than others. If you make the truth that you need to be a submissive follower to Christ, and the only way to heaven is through him, that is good for you. But, it accomplishes less than empowering yourself and rising to a higher level, in this case the level of what you call God.

If you need to be a submissive, mere human being, that is what you will come back into Being as. If you are a God of your own universe, that is what you will come back into Being as.

 

[Orias]

I don't think this answers my question at all concerning the existence and uniqueness of each person's personality.

Think of it as not really thinking thoughts, but having a nuclei in the center (action and speaking) that picks up one a million feelings and thoughts buzzing around in the atmosphere of your head.

Now, think of a person and their own individual story, we all have one. Don't think of a specific story, just keep in my mind that we all have one. This makes it easier to relate to as well as it makes it easier to oppose.

And if you doubt the existence of God as portrayed to you by other people then its probably because you have a doubt in your own. But fear not there is a solution, if you doubt something then perhaps it is true.

Sometimes, going word by word is worse than going word by thought by word, if you know what I mean.

And then there is always human conditioning, which is another completely different psychological summary.

 

[zenzero]

Friend InChrist,

How many people in the world today having no desire for God's revelation have already been involved with occultism in some way?

No idea, brother.
Best Wishes in your search.

Love & rgds

 

[InChrist]

Don't worry about that, our conversation is here:

I was just talking about this in my DIR; the only thing that is objectively real is that all reality is just vibrating energy. Energy makes up everything, we are energy, therefore we create our Selves. You choose what is true in your own, subjective, personal, spiritual reality. Some things are more useful than others. If you make the truth that you need to be a submissive follower to Christ, and the only way to heaven is through him, that is good for you. But, it accomplishes less than empowering yourself and rising to a higher level, in this case the level of what you call God.

If you need to be a submissive, mere human being, that is what you will come back into Being as. If you are a God of your own universe, that is what you will come back into Being as.

[FONT=&quot]There is nothing new or true about what you are saying. I don’t buy the old re-packaged lie. I understand reality enough to know I am not God.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]PARADIGM SHIFTING AND HUMAN POTENTIAL[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Excerpted from America: The Sorcerer's New Apprentice [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]“ENCOURAGED by New Age apostles such as Fritjof Capra ( The Tao of Physics and The Turning Point ) and Gary Zukav ( The Dancing Wu Li Masters ), the belief is growing that modern physics and ancient mystical traditions have striking parallels that lead to similar views of reality and thus justify a merger between the two. The facts are quite the opposite. Rather than supporting Eastern mysticism because it is so similar, modern physics actually has little in common with it.”[/FONT]

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TBC Classic | thebereancall.org

 

[InChrist]

Friend InChrist,


No idea, brother.
Best Wishes in your search.

Love & rgds

Best wishes to you also.

 

[Orias]

InChrist I'm curious to know what lie you think he is trying to present to you.

On another note, he doesn't mean literally "create" ourselves but manifest and combine perception into being as we age. Though in a sense, humans literally do create more humans, so in a way we do "create" ourselves, though its not actually creation.

Just using the parts we were already given.

Being our own God isn't about rebelling against something greater than us, but creating and seeing things to our own liking. In the realm of Gods, there is no such thing as an enemy unless they wish it to be.

There most definitely is some force or motion greater than us, maybe its conscious but its always personal simply because this is a certain knowledge we lack, therefore making any input on the matter a personal perspective.

God...is not something you or I have any control over. You cannot label or say this is what "God" is and nor can I, so lets just say that he exists.

 

[1137]

[FONT=&quot]There is nothing new or true about what you are saying. I don’t buy the old re-packaged lie. I understand reality enough to know I am not God

Well I never really wasted my time with New Age crap, good for you though. Mysticism isn't repackaged, it's been around since before recorded human history. The fact is quantum physics and mysticism are wholly compatible. It depends on your definitions. Quantum physics shows everything is energy. Mysticism agrees. You are adding in personal, involved, human like characteristics to vibrating energy... Of course that doesn't work. It is not personal or caring, it does not make purpose, it's just there, as are we. We live in an infinite and meaningless reality. Existence is an infinitely large blank canvass on which you paint your Being onto. You are choosing to be a submissive human in need of divine control. There is no reason for it. God is not needed to have logical morality, people are just too stupid to see that. You choose to come into being as a submissive human servant. Why not simply choose to be God like Christ did? Follow Christ, not the corporation that perverted his beliefs.

 

[1137]

I would agree that it is conscious, but in a much different way than we can imagine.

 

[Orias]

I agree.

I would also go as far as saying that the sum of this beings consciousness could possibly be evaluated in the totality of man's psyche and not just the individual.

Though, I just found a subjective root that could undermine that...blast at my natural subjective thought processes!

 

[InChrist]

Well I never really wasted my time with New Age crap, good for you though. Mysticism isn't repackaged, it's been around since before recorded human history. The fact is quantum physics and mysticism are wholly compatible. It depends on your definitions. Quantum physics shows everything is energy. Mysticism agrees. You are adding in personal, involved, human like characteristics to vibrating energy... Of course that doesn't work. It is not personal or caring, it does not make purpose, it's just there, as are we. We live in an infinite and meaningless reality. Existence is an infinitely large blank canvass on which you paint your Being onto. You are choosing to be a submissive human in need of divine control. There is no reason for it. God is not needed to have logical morality, people are just too stupid to see that. You choose to come into being as a submissive human servant. Why not simply choose to be God like Christ did? Follow Christ, not the corporation that perverted his beliefs.

Christ did not simply choose to be God, He choose to be human. His Creator "God state" of being is eternal. You do not seem to understand that I do not follow a church or corporation I know and follow the PERSON of Christ directly.

You can convince yourself that you are God, but it will never be true. Things will happen that you cannot control, even your own actions and thoughts will betray your grandiose self-deifying beliefs.

I do choose with full awareness to submit to the Creator of the universe who I know cares and gives incredible love and meaning not only today but for eternity.

 

[Orias]

What about tonight?

Will he still love us?

 

[blackout]

Our Own Psyche is always busy un'covering and dis'covering things.

How willing we are to look, is another story.

No outside help necessary.
Just a Set of Esoteric Eyes.
(and an Inner Vision)

 

[InChrist]

InChrist I'm curious to know what lie you think he is trying to present to you.

That humans can be God.

Being our own God isn't about rebelling against something greater than us, but creating and seeing things to our own liking. In the realm of Gods, there is no such thing as an enemy unless they wish it to be.

I think humans attempting to be their own God ...is about rebelling.

There most definitely is some force or motion greater than us, maybe its conscious but its always personal simply because this is a certain knowledge we lack, therefore making any input on the matter a personal perspective.

God...is not something you or I have any control over. You cannot label or say this is what "God" is and nor can I, so lets just say that he exists.[/q

I agree we have no control over God, nor can we label God, or pretend we are God. God reveals WHO He is.