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Officially the investigation now is

Windwalker

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You seem to be actually taking positions welcoming it as Trump has been continually acting as an autocrat does.
Why in God's name would my statement that I am bracing myself for Trump dictatorship be taken as me "welcoming it"??? Bracing oneself for a car about to collide into you, is not "welcoming it"! :) It means "Brace yourself. Your rights as you knew them will soon be a thing of the past". Does this sound like a welcoming attitude to you?
 

Windwalker

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Premium Member
It's not propaganda if the only thing that is required to get a drivers license and they'll give those to anyone. :D
Thanks for the link. Here's what it says:

"The mayor and City Council are not deciding national policy. We make decisions about trash pickup, snow removal and equipment for the parks," College Park Councilwoman Christine Nagle told The New York Times in August. "We have shared concerns with our neighbors regardless of whether they are U.S. citizens."​

This does not mean they vote outside their local communities. It does not mean they vote for President. Did you know this? If so, then why is this a "big deal" in your mind? As I said, "fact check". A half truth, is also half a lie, especially by those who choose to ignore context.
 

Windwalker

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Premium Member
You think we have a democracy now? You think we freely choose our 'leaders'? You think politicians are responsive to the will or needs of the people?
We still have hope of one. Once the constitution is suspended and Trump takes over a dictator, the great American experiment will have officially died.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
We still have hope of one. Once the constitution is suspended and Trump takes over a dictator, the great American experiment will have officially died.

I'm sure this will also herald the discovery of a herd of unicorn in New Zealand.
 

Windwalker

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Premium Member
I'm sure this will also herald the discovery of a herd of unicorn in New Zealand.
I would be overjoyed to be wrong about Trump. Unfortunately, I'm too aware of what the potential is. It may not happen, and for that, I would hump that unicorn gladly.
 

Mindmaster

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Premium Member
Thanks for the link. Here's what it says:

"The mayor and City Council are not deciding national policy. We make decisions about trash pickup, snow removal and equipment for the parks," College Park Councilwoman Christine Nagle told The New York Times in August. "We have shared concerns with our neighbors regardless of whether they are U.S. citizens."​

This does not mean they vote outside their local communities. It does not mean they vote for President. Did you know this? If so, then why is this a "big deal" in your mind? As I said, "fact check". A half truth, is also half a lie, especially by those who choose to ignore context.

Context isn't the only problem, all you need here where I am is a D/L or state ID and you can vote since it's the only ID that really matters. No one here is asking for a citizenship document at the voter registration booth. You just need to prove you're a resident of the state. So at least in my area there is nothing stopping illegal aliens from voting. Oh, you showing me an example and "I don't like that example" isn't going to work. If they can vote in a city they can vote in a state because where I am there is ONE voter registration period. My county, town, and state all use the same registration. It's probably the same for everyone else, so what is your argument again?
 

Phantasman

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We never had a democracy, in fact, we probably never want one. :D Mob rule isn't exactly beneficial to the outcome of your society and the founders understood this. We're a republic, and that means a representative government - baked into that idea is that a dictatorship is nearly impossible. Look at us now, different wings of the government in open revolt with each other - that's just not how a dictatorship happens.

I don't want a democracy either because I know it fails. If we simply voted on every matter individually then only the populous centers would have any vote. Nah, I'm much happier with things the way they are. Especially since those populous centers are now allowing illegal aliens to vote.
Ah, c'mon. Can't you get behind royalty? Just think............King Bill and Queen Hillary. lol.

Good post.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I would be overjoyed to be wrong about Trump. Unfortunately, I'm too aware of what the potential is. It may not happen, and for that, I would hump that unicorn gladly.

Best practice that beastly smile because Trump will never become a dictator. You underestimate his base.
 

Windwalker

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Premium Member
That was the point. Comey was not investigating Trump so what justice could have been obstructed?
The Russian investigation itself. That's easy. If he stood in the way of the FBI investigating a friend, while he himself was not the focus of the investigation or had anything to do with the crime, that would in fact be an obstruction of justice. That is what they are now investigating. If guilty, he committed a crime, like Nixon did. The Russian collusion is one crime. Obstruction of justice is a second crime.
 

Riders

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Of Russian collusion; and even though you think you know what you're talking about he is still not under investigation.

But this is a new investigation its new. You just said so yourself. You said that other investigation was for the Russian collusian, the Russian collusian is the only one Mueller had investigated up till now. This investigation for obstruction because Trump fired Comey is new. He just started his investigation ha!
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Thanks for the link. Here's what it says:

"The mayor and City Council are not deciding national policy. We make decisions about trash pickup, snow removal and equipment for the parks," College Park Councilwoman Christine Nagle told The New York Times in August. "We have shared concerns with our neighbors regardless of whether they are U.S. citizens."​

This does not mean they vote outside their local communities. It does not mean they vote for President. Did you know this? If so, then why is this a "big deal" in your mind? As I said, "fact check". A half truth, is also half a lie, especially by those who choose to ignore context.

I'm not ignoring anything, we have big problems with illegals voting locally. This is just laser-focusing on one particular instance I've cited. It's not even relevant in that way other than to demonstrate that it is happening. Locally, illegals are voting because all it takes is your drivers license. No one asks for any proof of citizenship or anything, so it's a constant problem. This is a state level problem in many states not just mine.

What makes you think if they cannot vote for local ordinances or county type provisions they aren't voting in everything else? That just takes a leap of logic and I'm not willing to jump off that cliff.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Of Russian collusion; and even though you think you know what you're talking about he is still not under investigation.
How do you know that? Are you eavesdropping on the FBI? Do you have covert sources inside the FBI?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Here is the source https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/26/us/politics/trump-tweets-mueller-obstruction.html

Mueller is investigating the tweets of trump to see if hes obstructed justice by firing Comey!

HAHAHAHAHA yep hes investigating Trump officially and for all of you Trump supporters and non ssuppoters who keep saying nothign is going to be done they wont investigate Trump and hes done nothing wrong AHA! YOU WERE ALL WRONG!
His tweets are being investigated, not Trump.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
To simply this so even paleolithic age neanderthals can understand

Russia is over-rated. ... They literally don't have the resources for any sort of sustained intelligence campaign against a country as large as ours.

Russia spends $70,000,000,000 annually on its military. Do you really think they cannot afford to spend 1% of that ($700,000,000) for cyber warfare?

Maybe that's too much math for paleolithic age neanderthals but surely someone in an online forum should be able to figure that out.
 
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