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Oh, Alrighty then, Trump just misspoke

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Obama did not make a gaffe. That was done by Stephanopolous. He did not understand the "my Muslim faith" in context. Obama was discussing how others claimed that he had a Muslim faith and he pointed out that McCain never brought up "my Muslim faith" a defense of McCain. In context George screwed up.
You've no explanation for Obama's correcting himself.
But we'll have to agree to disagree about this.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That was an error on his part. He was going along with the interviewer, it took less time to go along with him than to explain the full context of his statement.
That's quite a stretch...to explain away one gaffe with a subsequent gaffe about the gaffe.
But even if we take your explanation as cromulent, it shows that even Obama is
capable of a mistake. Certainly, a verbally inferior Trump is capable of one too.
I only say that this is possible. I don't know Trump's intentions.
My interest is in how foreign policy is affected.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You've no explanation for Obama's correcting himself.
But we'll have to agree to disagree about this.

No, that was an explanation. If someone does not understand you and it would take excessive time to explain a minor point one often will concede and move on. In an interview time
is at a premium. The transcript makes the context clear.

Let me break it down. Some Republicans made false claims that Obama was a Muslim. He mentioned McCain because though he was not guilty of that and he specifically cleared him of those accusations. George did not understand the correction himself. Read the transcript, don't listen to the interview. It is easier to follow if you do so.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That's quite a stretch...to explain away one gaffe with a subsequent gaffe about the gaffe.
But even if we take your explanation as cromulent, it shows that even Obama is
capable of a mistake. Certainly, a verbally less capable Trump is so capable too.
I only say that this is possible. I don't know Trump's intentions.
No, once again time was at a premium. One let's the small errors go.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No, once again time was at a premium. One let's the small errors go.
This is a pretty strained attempt to rationalize away a gaffe.
No, that was an explanation. If someone does not understand you and it would take excessive time to explain a minor point one often will concede and move on. In an interview time
is at a premium. The transcript makes the context clear.

Let me break it down. Some Republicans made false claims that Obama was a Muslim. He mentioned McCain because though he was not guilty of that and he specifically cleared him of those accusations. George did not understand the correction himself. Read the transcript, don't listen to the interview. It is easier to follow if you do so.
This horse is thoroughly beaten.
Each thinks the other is in denial.
We'll agree to disagree.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
I think this example of a `gaffe` by Obama counts not at all,
but if counted...Trump has about 4000 `gaffes` now.
Most people call them lies, but what the hell, two out of Trump's 4000, some comparison there, right ?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I think this example of a `gaffe` by Obama counts not at all,
but if counted...Trump has about 4000 `gaffes` now.
Most people call them lies, but what the hell, two out of Trump's 4000, some comparison there, right ?
I get it.
You believe that Trump said what he thought correctly, & is now lying about it.
You've no doubts.
I offered the example to illuminate why I do have doubt.

Since you don't quote my posts, I don't get alerted to your responses.
I now know to look thru threads where you might respond, but this is
an imperfect way to converse with me. I wonder how many I miss?
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
Quite a few Republicans spoke out about how horrible that press conference was, but I wonder if they will just forget the whole thing in a day or two and let the Orange Pumpkin continue to roll along without protest.

Warhawk's displeasure is easily ignored. Go look at Ron Paul's statements calling out BS from both sides.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Are you arguing over this because you see no possibility that Trump misspoke?
Honestly? :D

I do believe he didn't misspeak at all. He really meant "well...I don't see why the Russian government should be responsible for that"

Then..."someone" (I know who) induced him to take it back.

(btw...u're speaking to a Putin's supporter:D)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Honestly? :D
Always.
Aren't you?
I do believe he didn't misspeak at all. He really meant "well...I don't see why the Russian government should be responsible for that"

Then..."someone" (I know who) induced him to take it back.

(btw...u're speaking to a blind Putin's supporter:D)
I asked so that I'd know what you believe.
Now I do.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
No, that was an explanation. If someone does not understand you and it would take excessive time to explain a minor point one often will concede and move on.
You are trying to explain something to someone who voted for and still supports Trump, so why should you expect rational responses? C'mon, if nothing else they have to fabricate excuses as to why they voted for such a mental & moral midget.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think this example of a `gaffe` by Obama counts not at all,
but if counted...Trump has about 4000 `gaffes` now.
Most people call them lies, but what the hell, two out of Trump's 4000, some comparison there, right ?
Trump supporters don't know how to count beyond their toes & fingers, so how in the heck do you expect them to know what 4000 is??? :cool:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You are trying to explain something to someone who voted for and still supports Trump, so why should you expect rational responses? C'mon, if nothing else they have to fabricate excuses as to why they voted for such a mental & moral midget.
Since you have me on <ignore>, you've really no idea what I support.
Voting for Trump made sense in order to keep an incompetent, corrupt,
war mongering alternative out of office. But I understand that those
shortcomings don't bother you.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Trump supporters don't know how to count beyond their toes & fingers, so how in the heck do you expect them to know what 4000 is??? :cool:
This post is typical of anti-Trumpers.
It eschews reason in favor of mere insult.
To be certain that Trump lied rather than
misspoke is an article of faith. Thus, you
object to my pointing out the possibility
that he misspoke. And this angers you.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Since you have me on <ignore>, you've really no idea what I support.
Voting for Trump made sense in order to keep an incompetent, corrupt,
war mongering alternative out of office. But I understand that those
shortcomings don't bother you.


I can empathize a bit, though I disagree. I was ready to vote for Hillary even though I thought that she was a horrible candidate. I was lucky, In my state there was no contest so I was able to vote against both. I knew the candidate I voted for had no chance, but it was the best way to send my very limited message across. And I was not alone. In Washington we had the highest percentage ever of third party votes.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I can empathize a bit, though I disagree. I was ready to vote for Hillary even though I thought that she was a horrible candidate. I was lucky, In my state there was no contest so I was able to vote against both. I knew the candidate I voted for had no chance, but it was the best way to send my very limited message across. And I was not alone. In Washington we had the highest percentage ever of third party votes.
In Michiganistan it was close.
Had it been a forgone conclusion for one
or the other, I'd have picked Gary Johnson.
 
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