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Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
How so?
I'm seeing things much worse for men than before.

I still see no legal requirements for men to stick around to support their kids.

Child support maybe. But even that's not a guarantee.

(My father never paid a dime, thanks to moving frequently, for instance)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I still see no legal requirements for men to stick around to support their kids.

Child support maybe. But even that's not a guarantee.

(My father never paid a dime, thanks to moving frequently, for instance)
That some evade paying child support doesn't mean
there isn't strong legal authority to make'm pay.
If government couldn't force him to pay, they certainly
couldn't force him to stay.
BTW, there are no greater requirements to make mothers
stay or pay.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
That some evade paying child support doesn't mean
there isn't strong legal authority to make'm pay.
If government couldn't force him to pay, they certainly
couldn't force him to stay.
BTW, there are no greater requirements to make mothers
stay or pay.
Except keeping them pregnant against their will?
I mean a man can still flee if he gets someone pregnant. He doesn’t give birth at the end of the day.
So it’s probably still easier to escape responsibility for the man at the end of the day, let’s be real here.

That said, I can’t help but foresee a rise in “dumpster babies” in the US as a consequence to the alluded to R v W ruling, which is ugly in more ways than one. I mean not all will be healthy, not all will even be alive and indeed not all will signal an end to the woman’s medical needs. If you catch my drift?
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Except keeping them pregnant against their will?
The argument I hear from anti-abortion types is that
is a de minimis imposition. (Of course, I disagree.)
I mean a man can still flee if he gets someone pregnant. He doesn’t give birth at the end of the day.
The woman has an equal ability
to flee after the baby is born.
So it’s probably still easier to escape responsibility for the man at the end of the day, let’s be real here.

That said, I can’t help but foresee a rise in “dumpster babies” in the US as a consequence to the alluded to R v W ruling, which is ugly in more ways than one. I mean not all will be healthy, not all will even be alive and indeed not all will signal an end to the woman’s medical needs. If you catch my drift?
The most significant thing (IMO) about abortion rights
is the legal imposition upon the mother...mental, financial,
& especially physical. Father rights & obligations are
important, but a separable set of issues.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
That some evade paying child support doesn't mean
there isn't strong legal authority to make'm pay.
If government couldn't force him to pay, they certainly
couldn't force him to stay.
BTW, there are no greater requirements to make mothers
stay or pay.

But isn't this SCOTUS ruling an excellent occasion to embrace socialism totally?;)

I mean...the State funds universal healthcare, contraception. And in case of unwanted pregnancies, the State will take care of the children.
So it will surely satisfy anti-abortionists and most pro-choice people.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
But isn't this SCOTUS ruling an excellent occasion to embrace socialism totally?;)
Also a great occasion for global thermonuclear war,
self replicating killer nanobots on the loose, & the
revival of Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars new releases.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Also a great occasion for global thermonuclear war,
self replicating killer nanobots on the loose, & the
revival of Jar Jar Binks in Star Wars new releases.
:)I deeply thank Americans for liberating my country and giving it away to the staunchest Socialists and Communists in Europe...who wrote one of the most socialist Constitutions in the world.
Thank you dears:heart:
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
:)I deeply thank Americans for liberating my country and giving it away to the staunchest Socialists and Communists in Europe...who wrote one of the most socialist Constitutions in the world.
Thank you dears:heart:
We thank you for tiramisu.
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
Excerpted....
"When asked about banning birth control, Schmidt said she would consider it."
According to the article that's not an actual quote.

"That’s another issue for another day and I’m going to have to listen to both sides of the debate,” she said. “Right now, what I’m concerned about right now is the life of the child and the fact that we have the opportunity in Ohio to protect it from its conception until its natural death.”

The way people are taking is as if she said she's for banning birth control. That's not at all what was said.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
According to the article that's not an actual quote.

"That’s another issue for another day and I’m going to have to listen to both sides of the debate,” she said. “Right now, what I’m concerned about right now is the life of the child and the fact that we have the opportunity in Ohio to protect it from its conception until its natural death.”

The way people are taking is as if she said she's for banning birth control. That's not at all what was said.
The quote shows her willingness to consider banning contraception.
The statement about the quote is accurate.
 
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