Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw

[Wandering Monk]

The Brown Shirts have suddenly gotten bolder!

Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, contraceptives aren't an enumerated right.
Like interracial marriage, Mr Thomas.

 

[The Hammer]

The Brown Shirts have suddenly gotten bolder!

Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw

This stands out to me as particularly atrocious.

"Schmidt, who previously called a pregnancy caused by rape an “opportunity” for women, said there would be no carveout for pregnancies caused by rape or incest.

“You know, rape and incest is an ugly, ugly, ugly act of violence and that woman is truly harmed and scarred. Those wounds will never go away,” she said. “We need to make sure she has all of the love and help and support. But to end the pregnancy of the child is not going to erase the wounds or those scars. That child still has the right to life.”

 

[Twilight Hue]

The Brown Shirts have suddenly gotten bolder!

Ohio state representative says she would consider banning birth control following abortion outlaw

Cant stand the nanny state huh?

Neither can I.

 

[tytlyf]

As Ohio restricts abortions, 10-year-old girl travels to Indiana for procedure

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Cant stand the nanny state huh?

Neither can I.

Here's the difference:
Having to pay for a plastic shopping bag involves no violation of your rights and only involves a very trivial issue.
Abortion involves a medical procedure that is time sensitive and of a highly personal choice that may also effect the health of the mother.
It's called knowing what freedoms and liberties really are.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Here's the difference:
Having to pay for a plastic shopping bag involves no violation of your rights and only involves a very trivial issue.
Abortion involves a medical procedure that is time sensitive and of a highly personal choice that may also effect the health of the mother.
It's called knowing what freedoms and liberties really are.

It's all the same.

It's authoritarianism and takes away people's rights to make choices for themselves.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's all the same.

It's authoritarianism and takes away people's rights to make choices for themselves.

Sameness means identical magnitude of imposition.
Abortion prohibition =/= Having to pay for shopping bags

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's all the same.

It's authoritarianism and takes away people's rights to make choices for themselves.

What choice is being denied with not getting free shopping bags?
How can you not see the difference between the two issues?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Abortion prohibition

It's scary reading that, because bad people become rich and powerful when there is a prohibition of something people want and need that is illegal.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What choice is being denied with not getting free shopping bags?
How can you not see the difference between the two issues?

There is no difference.

It's government authoritarianism through rule of law.

It's still the same thing.

Now your seeing the bigger stuff happen because the right of choice isn't protected anymore because it's been enabled with the smaller stuff.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's scary reading that, because bad people become rich and powerful when there is a prohibition of something people want and need that is illegal.

The potential of becoming rich is what
enables people to bypass prohibition.

Note to mods...
Not advocating this.
Just recognizing reality.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Now your seeing the bigger stuff happen because the right of choice isn't protected anymore because it's been enabled with the smaller stuff.

The bags were voted on. Roe v Wade involved systemically stacking the SC to do away with something most Americans wanted to remain.
Again I ask, what choice do the bags involve?

 

[Twilight Hue]

The bags were voted on. Roe v Wade involved systemically stacking the SC to do away with something most Americans wanted to remain.
Again I ask, what choice do the bags involve?

Again it's the same thing and no the bags were not voted on. It was mandated.

It's people's freedoms to choose.

They did it with the smaller stuff. Now they can move on to the larger stuff because the legal mechanisms are in place.

 

[Revoltingest]

Again it's the same thing and no the bags were not voted on. It was mandated.

It's people's freedoms to choose.

They did it with the smaller stuff. Now they can move on to the larger stuff because the mechanisms are in place.

If one treats all things with some feature in common,
regardless of imposition upon people, one will find
one's efforts poorly allocated.

 

[The Hammer]

It's all the same.

It's authoritarianism and takes away people's rights to make choices for themselves.

No it's really not.

Your attempting to conflate apples.to beach balls.

Edit: me telling you to that it's now an extra nickel for a bag,.isn't the same authoritarianism that put the Japanese in internment camps. It's non sequitur.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

Its all about punishing woman for having casual sex. They want us too suffer.

 

[Twilight Hue]

No it's really not.

Your attempting to conflate apples.to beach balls.

Edit: me telling you to that it's now an extra nickel for a bag,.isn't the same authoritarianism that put the Japanese in internment camps. It's non sequitur.

I disagree in the sense that if you can do it with the smaller stuff, you will then be able do it with the larger stuff.

Its still, as I see it, taking away the right for people to choose at the end of the day.

 

[The Hammer]

I disagree in the sense that if you can do it with the smaller stuff, you will then be able do it with the larger stuff.

Its still, as I see it, taking away the right for people to choose at the end of the day.

Choice is an illusion

 

[Estro Felino]

She would consider.
Nobody will take her seriously.

By the way, the best hormonal pills are from Europe.
The most sold contraceptives are from a German pharmaceutical company.
Maybe they hate Germany?