Ok, I've had it with OWS

[Heathen Hammer]

Im reading a pre-publish version of a book by Daron Avemoglu and James Robinson called 'Why nations fail', and they are just now emphasizing that throughout history, that a goverment which moves in this direction, creating a system where they enrich themselves at the expense of those who actually produce, they are actually setting themselves up to be starved of the power and goods they are trying to enrich their caste with. A system where an elite isolate the wealth and products of their society in order to grab it all for themselves, wind up removing education, prosperity and the impetus to actually work, from their own society. Their country will decline, in all aspects, until some pivotal event forces a reset of their entire political structure. They are creating an unsupportable system and, history has shown, those of the caste whom are having their property and livelyhoods taken from them will eventually reach a breaking point. Most likely, destroying outright the overbearing caste [if something like the bubonic plague doesn't come along and force the issue itself outside of anyone's hands].

If that's really what they want, they're sure going to get it.

 

[Kathryn]

'Tis the way of the world. Seriously, think about the history of governments. I believe it must be something flawed in our human nature that creates this same cycle of wealth and power and poverty and police states over and over again.

 

[Heathen Hammer]

Yeah. Listen, if we all survive the bloodbath, let's make sure single term limits are written into Constitution 2.0. Letting these scumbags do this work on us for decades at a time is an obvious total blunder.

 

[Kathryn]

Yeah. Listen, if we all survive the bloodbath, let's make sure single term limits are written into Constitution 2.0. Letting these scumbags do this work on us for decades at a time is an obvious total blunder.

Damn straight! Incumbents and career politicians are some of the worst scourges on our society!

 

[Heathen Hammer]

You are gettin another frubal some day, missy. Just not today, apparently

 

[Kathryn]

You are gettin another frubal some day, missy. Just not today, apparently

RATS! Don't forget about me later! :angel2:

 

[cablescavenger]

The "movement" known as Occupy (insert local tag) has gotten on my last nerve. In the spirit of the words of Michael Grimm, I'm hereby founding a charity to buy each and every OWS'er a bar of Ivory soap, and a Greyhound ticket to the address on their government-issued ID. More details and how to donate will follow.

Perhaps they can cross you off the list of people they are speaking up for.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Perhaps they can cross you off the list of people they are speaking up for.

I wish they would. 99% of the people don't agree on anything. It's stupid to say so.

 

[YmirGF]

Perhaps they can cross you off the list of people they are speaking up for.

Well, they certainly don't speak for me. It is my view that they have merely coined an interesting, though highly inaccurate phrase, and the slobbering media ate what was put in front of them. Still others chose to buy into the myth because it more or less fits their delusional thinking.

My guess is that, if and when, there is any bloodbath, it is when the true 99.95% decide they are tired of the shenanigans of this so-called "movement" and move to put them in their place. Could anyone, seriously, want these groups to be in charge of running anything whatsoever?

 

[cablescavenger]

Well, they certainly don't speak for me.

If you say so

It is my view that they have merely coined an interesting, though highly inaccurate phrase, and the slobbering media ate what was put in front of them. My guess is that if and when there is any bloodbath it is when the true 99.95% decided they are tired of the shenanigans of this so-called "movement" and move to put them in their place. Could anyone, seriously, want these groups to be in charge of running anything whatsoever?

Heheh! That is crazy talk.

The only people OWS have to fear are those who have the money who influence the Government and politicians who in turn influence the media and the police.

Those you are proposing will commit some kind of bloodbath have already shown their apathy and won't be leaving their home, but they will be with you in spirit.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I say bring it on! Lets get this thing over with. Some of us are more prepaired than others.

 

[Jeremy Mason]

Back to Jeremy's question:

The city of Oakland is a hotbed of violence and known for it's destructive protests and street riots. A strong police presence is a "necessary evil" in Oakland. The people of that city have brought that upon themselves.

I don't recall asking a question, however, can you provide proof of these destructive protests and street riots that the OWSers created.

 

[YmirGF]

I say bring it on! Lets get this thing over with. Some of us are more prepaired than others.

I am right there with ya, bud.

 

[Jeremy Mason]

I say bring it on! Lets get this thing over with. Some of us are more prepaired than others.

 

[YmirGF]

Well, perhaps I will change my tune when they actually manage to come up with something meaningful.

 

[Jeremy Mason]

Well, perhaps I will change my tune when they actually manage to come up with something meaningful.

Here you go.

Occupy Wall Street Demands - coupmedia.org

 

[YmirGF]

Here you go.

Occupy Wall Street Demands - coupmedia.org

I was looking for something serious. What was I thinking?

 

[Kathryn]

I don't recall asking a question, however, can you provide proof of these destructive protests and street riots that the OWSers created.

I was talking about the regular riots and violent protests in Oakland in general. I thought that was pretty clear from my post.

 

[Jeremy Mason]

I was talking about the regular riots and violent protests in Oakland in general. I thought that was pretty clear from my post.

The city of Oakland is a hotbed of violence and known for it's destructive protests and street riots.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2788206-post260.html

Sorry Kathryn, I was just trying to give you the opportunity to clarify whether the "known destructive protests and riots" were OWS related or not.

Here is a list of modern riot in the US.
List of race riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Modern

• 1980: Miami Riots (Miami, Florida)
• 1980: Chattanooga Riot (Chattanooga, Tennessee)
• 1984: Lawrence, Massachusetts Race Riot: A small scale riot centered at the intersection of Haverhill and railroad streets between working class whites and Hispanics; several buildings were destroyed by Molotov cocktails; August 8, 1984.[47]
• 1990: Inglewood High School riot (Inglewood, California): A riot that broke out in front of the school between 30 Latinos and blacks after the black students leave the Cinco de Mayo day as revenge for running out on Black History Day.
• 1991: Crown Heights riot (Crown Heights neighborhood, Brooklyn, New York)
• 1992: Los Angeles Riots (Los Angeles, California): In a reaction to the acquittal of all LA police officers involved in the videotaped beating of Rodney King; riots broke out mainly involving black youths in the black neighborhoods and shop owners in Korean neighborhoods.
• 1996: St. Petersburg Riots (St. Petersburg, Florida): After Officer Jim Knight stopped 18 yr. old Tyron Lewis for speeding, his car lurched forward causing Knight to fire his weapon, fatally wounding the black teenager. Riots broke out and lasted for about 2 days.
• 2001: Cincinnati riots (Cincinnati, Ohio): In a reaction to the acquittal of Steven Roach after the fatal shooting of an unarmed young black male, Timothy Thomas, during a foot pursuit, riots broke out over the span of a few days.
• 2003: Benton Harbor riots (Benton Harbor, Michigan)
• 2005: 2005 Toledo Riot (Toledo, Ohio): A race riot that broke out after the Neo-Nazi protest marched through a black neighborhood.
• 2006: Fontana High School riot (Fontana, California): Riot involving about 500 Latino and black students[48]
• 2006: Prison Race Riots (California): A war between Latino and black prison gangs set off a series of riots across California[49][50]
• 2008: Locke High School riot[51] (Los Angeles, California)
• 2008: Hempstead High School riot (Hempstead, New York): Two days of fighting between Hispanic and black students.[52]
• 2009: 2009 Oakland Riots (Oakland, California): Peaceful protests turned into rioting after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man, Oscar Grant, by a BART transit policeman.
• 2010: Hempstead High School riot (Hempstead, New York): A whole week Of fighting between Latinos and blacks.[citation needed]

There is only one riot that implicates Oakland and that was 2009 and the police started that one, so....again, where is the hot bed of protests and riots in Oakland that you are referring to.

 

[Jeremy Mason]

I was looking for something serious. What was I thinking?

Maybe you can help me. Which one of the demands are you not considering serious.