On Evolution & Creation

[The Hammer]

and you really don't KNOW how life began to "replicate." Anything you say is mere conjecture.

Umm? Not sure what that's got to do with evolution?

 

[YoursTrue]

Umm? Not sure what that's got to do with evolution?

Then you need to learn more about the theory. bye for now.

 

[The Hammer]

Then you need to learn more about the theory. bye for now.

Abiogenesis and evolution are separate things...

 

[YoursTrue]

Abiogenesis and evolution are separate things...

I'm not talking now about abiogenesis, but rather the first few items science figures was the start of evolution. NOT abiogenesis.

 

[The Hammer]

I'm not talking now about abiogenesis, but rather the first few items science figures was the start of evolution. NOT abiogenesis.

That's basically the same thing friend. Science is fuzzy. You're trying to draw a line where there isn't one.

 

[YoursTrue]

Umm? Not sure what that's got to do with evolution?

OK, well what was the very first lifeform on the earth?

 

[YoursTrue]

That's basically the same thing friend. Science is fuzzy. You're trying to draw a line where there isn't one.

OK, are you saying that scientists don't know what the first lifeform was on earth?

 

[The Hammer]

OK, are you saying that scientists don't know what the first lifeform was on earth?

We know it wasn't human

 

[The Hammer]

OK, are you saying that scientists don't know what the first lifeform was on earth?

Early Life on Earth – Animal Origins

Learn what fossil evidence reveals about the origins of the first life on Earth, from bacteria to animals, including the phyla we know today.

naturalhistory.si.edu

 

[YoursTrue]

We know it wasn't human

oh boy! Excellent! I think.

 

[YoursTrue]

Early Life on Earth – Animal Origins

Learn what fossil evidence reveals about the origins of the first life on Earth, from bacteria to animals, including the phyla we know today.

naturalhistory.si.edu

ya know, I looked at that before you linked to it, and guess what? Reminded me of textbooks that make statements without backup.

 

[The Hammer]

ya know, I looked at that before you linked to it, and guess what? Reminded me of textbooks that make statements without backup.

“There's none so blind as those who will not see”
-Jonathan Swift

 

[Valjean]

Whether you realize it or not, you're preaching your belief, even though you just accept whatever you want to without investigating or...thinking hard, Valjean. You just blindly accept what the scientific consensus may be. You couldn't possibly understand everything there is to know within the theoretical analysis. And I'm speaking even of the basics. You...and others ..do ..not...know no matter if you think you do and swear by it. I have come to this conclusion after reading these many posts.

I blindly accept nothing. Nor do scientists. I follow the evidence. You do not.
You try to squeeze the world into an unevidenced mythos you accept on faith.

How do you know they wouldn't look like fish? Maybe transitionally they would look like crocodiles. Thank you!!

They might become shaped a little like fish, but anatomically they'd be quite different. You might be able to get a facsimile of a fish from an amphioxus, but there's no easy way to reëngineer mammalian anatomy into a fish.

 

[Valjean]

ya know, I looked at that before you linked to it, and guess what? Reminded me of textbooks that make statements without backup.

What sort of textbook makes claims without backup? Wouldn't that be a fantasty book?

 

[YoursTrue]

“There's none so blind as those who will not see”
-Jonathan Swift

Where's the backup? You can't see because -- it's -- not == there for our eyes to "see." Genes are there -- bones are there -- fossils are there -- brains of various sizes are there -- but those things do not verify lifeforms via the process of the theory of evolution. Nope. I am thankful or that.

 

[YoursTrue]

What sort of textbook makes claims without backup? Wouldn't that be a fantasty book?

I'm afraid you have not read a textbook about evolution lately. There are statements all over the place with nothing but statements as to what the authors think. Or put there.

 

[The Hammer]

Where's the backup? You can't see because -- it's -- not == there for our eyes to "see." Genes are there -- bones are there -- fossils are there -- brains of various sizes are there -- but those things do not verify lifeforms via the process of the theory of evolution. Nope. I am thankful or that.

You can see with more than your eyes.

But your as obstinate as ever. Back on ignore you go.

 

[YoursTrue]

You can see with more than your eyes.

But your as obstinate as ever. Back on ignore you go.

Yayyy!!

 

[URAVIP2ME]

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How do you normally determine if a claim is true or false? What is your assessment modality?

Which truth ? General truth, or divine truth as Jesus expressed at John 17:17 that Scripture is religious truth

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Yeah.. that's science. We know what we know. And we know what we don't know. .

Yeah.. that's Jesus, We know what we know, And we know what we don't know.
We know what Jesus thought and what Jesus knew, and we know what we don't know is who will be a figurative sheep or goat at the soon coming time of separation as taught at Matthew chapter 25
We know there is going to be a coming saying of " Peace and Security...." but those rosy-sounding words can just lead people down that old primrose path instead of to safety to world-wide troubles, how does evolution explain that