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On Evolution & Creation

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
A question for the creationists:
How can a snake talk?
Genesis 3 outlines a dialogue between a snake and a human. Given that we know that snakes do not possess the brain function nor the vocal apparatus that allows speech and its comprehension, how was that conversation possible?
The actual animal 'snake' did Not do the talking rather it was that notorious 'snake-in-the-grass' Satan the Devil
Sinner Satan easily could have used that serpent in the same way a ventriloquist uses his dummy - Genesis chapter 3
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
.............................. There are a hundred different religions that could make just as well evidenced claims for their mythologies.
And what does any of this have to do with evolution? :shrug:
With evolution? Not compatible
More than hundreds of different religions because mankind can trace its religious family tree back to the Tower of Babel
As the people migrated away from Babylon they took with them their religious mythologies and ideas and spread them world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great
This is why we see so many similar or overlapping religious mythologies and practices spread throughout today's religious world
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
In your opinion yes.
" Beyond the mist of myth and legend is a place not far from here " - Damh the Bard

To me, the 'myth and legend' is all of the man-made political failures of Man dominating man to man's hurt, man's injury
Beyond this political mist the place that is Not far from here is the soon coming one-thousand years of Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill
This is why we are all invited to ask God for Jesus to come ! - Rev. 22:20
To come and bring ' healing' to earth's nations - Rev. 22:2
As it is written, so shall it be !
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I'm afraid you have not read a textbook about evolution lately.

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There are statements all over the place with nothing but statements as to what the authors think. Or put there.
Citation?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
A question for the creationists:
How can a snake talk?

Genesis 3 outlines a dialogue between a snake and a human. Given that we know that snakes do not possess the brain function nor the vocal apparatus that allows speech and its comprehension, how was that conversation possible?
Maybe they talked with their footies? thats why god
deleted them.
 

Hooded_Crow

Taking flight
The actual animal 'snake' did Not do the talking rather it was that notorious 'snake-in-the-grass' Satan the Devil
Sinner Satan easily could have used that serpent in the same way a ventriloquist uses his dummy - Genesis chapter 3
It doesn't actually mention Satan in that passage. It states plainly that the serpent spoke. So again, what is the biology behind this?

If you are claiming that a supernatural being spoke through the snake when it isn't explicitly stated in the passage, you are giving your opinion, not providing evidence.
 
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Pogo

Well-Known Member
I find the Bible is chock full of human knowledge with its examples of ups and downs and why
Yes, there are many books based on religious philosophy
Turn on the TV and we see the pitch to always keep coming back returning for more new religious self-help books
That example does Not make the Bible as wrong
I didn't say the Bible is wrong, I said that some believers that claim to write textbooks based on their interpretation are often wrong relative to demonstrated knowledge of reality and have neither veracity or evidence to back up their positions, two very important things for textbooks to teach about reality.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I didn't say the Bible is wrong, I said that some believers that claim to write textbooks based on their interpretation are often wrong relative to demonstrated knowledge of reality and have neither veracity or evidence to back up their positions, two very important things for textbooks to teach about reality.
I would say that it is the literalists that take a holy book and make it wrong. They transform it into a book of myths.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
I would say that it is the literalists that take a holy book and make it wrong. They transform it into a book of myths.
Pretty much every history of the founding of the US is a myth which is not to say that it doesn't include truths and facts, but being a story about the origin of a populace it qualifies as a myth as well.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Pretty much every history of the founding of the US is a myth which is not to say that it doesn't include truths and facts, but being a story about the origin of a populace it qualifies as a myth as well.
Wait!! Are you trying to claim that George Washington did not man the airports?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
It doesn't actually mention Satan in that passage. It states plainly that the serpent spoke. So again, what is the biology behind this?
If you are claiming that a supernatural being spoke through the snake when it isn't explicitly stated in the passage, you are giving your opinion, not providing evidence.
Good point about Satan as not being the mentioned serpent, but we know a serpent does Not talk, so what caused the speech ?
Jesus identified serpents at Matthew 23:33; John 8:44 Not as talking animals but the devil as their father.
John the Baptist exposes such people as vipers at Matthew 3:7
Sinner Satan is that first or original Genesis serpent according to Revelation 12:9
No literal serpent does exist to eat dust, live on dust - Gen.3:14 B - but as we might say today, ' bite the dust ' meaning Satan would die
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I didn't say the Bible is wrong, I said that some believers that claim to write textbooks based on their interpretation are often wrong relative to demonstrated knowledge of reality and have neither veracity or evidence to back up their positions, two very important things for textbooks to teach about reality.
Man's long history has often glossed over man's wrongdoing, but in Scripture we find even people like King David's sin exposed.
So, besides the humble good we find examples of the haughty bad, and even some very bad ones repenting
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Good point about Satan as not being the mentioned serpent, but we know a serpent does Not talk, so what caused the speech ?
Jesus identified serpents at Matthew 23:33; John 8:44 Not as talking animals but the devil as their father.
John the Baptist exposes such people as vipers at Matthew 3:7
Sinner Satan is that first or original Genesis serpent according to Revelation 12:9
No literal serpent does exist to eat dust, live on dust - Gen.3:14 B - but as we might say today, ' bite the dust ' meaning Satan would die
That is not his point. The story does not claim that the serpent is Satan. That is your interpretation. You still need to explain how the serpent spoke.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
That is not his point. The story does not claim that the serpent is Satan. That is your interpretation. You still need to explain how the serpent spoke.
Yes, according to Revelation 12:9 is in connection to Genesis
Powerful angelic Satan used the serpent as a ventriloquist uses his dummy
The serpent just appeared to be talking but Satan was the Puppet Master behind the animal
For all we know, that way Satan could have easily told Eve the Serpent could talk because it was eating forbidden fruit !
Remember: Eve 'saw' (observed) the fruit. Remember the fruit was Not poison but rather breaking the law carried with it the death penalty
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yes, according to Revelation 12:9 is in connection to Genesis
Powerful angelic Satan used the serpent as a ventriloquist uses his dummy
The serpent just appeared to be talking but Satan was the Puppet Master behind the animal
For all we know, that way Satan could have easily told Eve the Serpent could talk because it was eating forbidden fruit !
Remember: Eve 'saw' (observed) the fruit. Remember the fruit was Not poison but rather breaking the law carried with it the death penalty
That is pretty weak sauce. By the way, do you realize that scientists know, that the story in the Bible is a myth? Genesis may work as allegory, but it fails as history. It fails so badly that for one to claim that it is literally true is to also claim that God is a liar.
 
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