On The Second Coming of Christ

[sooda]

One of the reasons the Jews rejected Jesus was because He did not meet their expectations of the Messiah or Christ. They expected one who would unite them and defeat their enemies as King David had. Jesus was no worldly king in that sense. Instead He became the King of peoples hearts and the focal point for their adoration.

King David's kingdom was about 10 acres and fewer than 2000 people... and the Jebusites never left Jerusalem.. They were NOT defeated by David.

 

[sooda]

I’m not sure about that, but even so, just because something wasn’t written down until after the events they describe does not necessarily mean that those events didn’t occur.

You are claiming that the Bible never reported the visit of Menelik the adult son of Solomon???

This all just gets worse and worse. Take the time to watch this:

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[loverofhumanity]

In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Selah. Hail Jah Rastafari!


Blessed Greetings everyone. Late last night, I was meditating on The Holy Bible and on Jesus Christ when I began to connect the dots of His Return to the Coming of Haile Selassie I.

(Something important to consider: different Rastas will have different understandings of who exactly Haile Selassie I is.)

In the Book of Revelation, Christ will return as an earthly ruler, and His Titles will be King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Root of David. There are so many individuals who have claimed to be Christ Returned, or of whom this is said. Only one of them possessed these titles: Emperor Haile Selassie I.


When I encountered this claim with Bahá’u’lláh, it never made truly sense to me. Bahá’u’lláh was not a king or a ruler of any sort. Haile Selassie was the Emperor of Ethiopia. This doubt was only furthered by the fact that Bahá’í teachings do not conform to fundamental Christian teachings such as the Trinity and the bodily resurrection of Christ, but rather these are denied. At least, if any person will claim to be Jesus Christ returned, their life and teaching would conform 100% to what He taught. Haile Selassie’s Life and Teachings do (even absent of any claim of being Christ returned). 100%. Many times, He is recorded as having referred to Jesus Christ as “Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ”, stressing the importance of sincerely believing in the Gospel.

Thusly, I understand that it’s more fitting to be a Rasta than to have been a Bahá’í, coming from my being brought up as a devout Christian. Between the two of these, I am convinced that Haile Selassie I is far more likely to be Christ Returned in His Kingly Character than Bahá’u’lláh is. With this said, I harbor no ill will towards him or his followers in any regard. Peace and Blessings.

Thank you for your kind words. Blessings to you and well wishes. I enjoyed reading your post very much.

 

[Dawnofhope]

King David's kingdom was about 10 acres and fewer than 2000 people... and the Jebusites never left Jerusalem.. They were NOT defeated by David.

I'm not sure how any of this relates to the Jews expecting their Messiah to emerge from the House of David.

 

[sooda]

I'm not sure how any of this relates to the Jews expecting their Messiah to emerge from the House of David.

Judah was always dominated by Israel.. David is glorified all out of proportion to his accomplishments. I am beginning to think all of expectations of an anointed warrior king are just more of their mythology.

It appears the Gospel of Matthew was written AFTER the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD... and the Sermon on the Mount was created about the same time.

 

[LightSeeker9]

The Bible is not a factual book . It was a series of plagiarism throughout thousands of years stealing the concept of the Egyptian spiritual system in located in along the Nile valley river in African and the stories form the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets in Mesopotamia who are also African. The Caucasians who came later after our spirituality had been developed for thousands of years before, they came and took, plagiarized, changed, added, hid and made they’re own Holy Scripture. Anyone want to debate on this feel free I will provide the proof or reference if needed

 

[LightSeeker9]

Jesus is not a real person but the concept comes from something that predates him thousands of yearsc

 

[sooda]

The Bible is not a factual book . It was a series of plagiarism throughout thousands of years stealing the concept of the Egyptian spiritual system in located in along the Nile valley river in African and the stories form the Sumerian Cuneiform Tablets in Mesopotamia who are also African. The Caucasians who came later after our spirituality had been developed for thousands of years before, they came and took, plagiarized, changed, added, hid and made they’re own Holy Scripture. Anyone want to debate on this feel free I will provide the proof or reference if needed

Their is no evidence that the Sumerians were from Africa. They are sometimes referred to as "black-headed people", but based on the work of Stanley Kramer or even the work of Wilfred Thesinger among the Marsh Arabs would indicate they were from eastern Saudi Arabia about 6,000 years ago.

 

[LightSeeker9]

Well on the contrary. You would have to know geography. And have to study the migration of the people. You need to know linguistics and be able to study the language because when you see the influence one language has on another you will see where one derives from. Back to the migration. We know the first civilization of people began along the Nile Valley River. Which was Nubia/Kush/ Ethiopia /Asksum. Which today today would be your modern Sudan. Then they moved along the river and established more and more empires along the river all the way up into Kemet/ TamaRe/ Egypt. If you study the maps you will see how close that is to African So if wouldn’t not be hard for these African people to cross over to that land and establish civilization.

 

[sooda]

Well on the contrary. You would have to know geography. And have to study the migration of the people. You need to know linguistics and be able to study the language because when you see the influence one language has on another you will see where one derives from. Back to the migration. We know the first civilization of people began along the Nile Valley River. Which was Nubia/Kush/ Ethiopia /Asksum. Which today today would be your modern Sudan. Then they moved along the river and established more and more empires along the river all the way up into Kemet/ TamaRe/ Egypt. If you study the maps you will see how close that is to African So if wouldn’t not be hard for these African people to cross over to that land and establish civilization.

I know the geography and distances quite well. I grew up there.

Treating "black-headed peoples" as a ethnic designator is a bit of a blind alley because there is such thin evidence on the question of whether or not the peoples of Mesopotamia ever saw "Sumerians" as a distinct ethnic group, or even on the question of whether the modern conception of ethnicity had any real salience in Mesopotamia.

I suspect it did not. The Marsh Arabs of Iraq speak a Gulf Arabic dialect from Eastern Arabia.. Along the coasts people are quite dark from mixing with Africans on the West Coast and Indus Valley people on the East coast for thousands of years.. but in the interior people are very fairskinned with black hair.

 

[LightSeeker9]

I don’t only mean their “black wooly hair” I also mean their black African skin. When I speak in the context I am solely pertaining to the ancient times before any caucasians came in the mix. Im referring when the original man was roaming the earth. The people speak of today are due to the mixing of other people’s later on resulting to what you see today. Same way Egypt is teeming with pale-Arabs and posing as true Egyptian or the Caucasian romans mixing in claiming them sleeve Egyptian . You cannoy use the modern people of that lend today as an example because they come later after the empires

 

[LightSeeker9]

Typos^^ *claiming them as Egyptians”

 

[LightSeeker9]

*of that land*

 

[sooda]

I don’t only mean their “black wooly hair” I also mean their black African skin. When I speak in the context I am solely pertaining to the ancient times before any caucasians came in the mix. Im referring when the original man was roaming the earth. The people speak of today are due to the mixing of other people’s later on resulting to what you see today. Same way Egypt is teeming with pale-Arabs and posing as true Egyptian or the Caucasian romans mixing in claiming them sleeve Egyptian . You cannoy use the modern people of that lend today as an example because they come later after the empires

Why do you think they had wooly hair? Most Arabs don't.

The civilizations in the Levant and Mesopotamia didn't originate in Africa. Sumer and Ubaid were old when Egypt was new.

I don’t only mean their “black wooly hair” I also mean their black African skin. When I speak in the context I am solely pertaining to the ancient times before any caucasians came in the mix. Im referring when the original man was roaming the earth. The people speak of today are due to the mixing of other people’s later on resulting to what you see today. Same way Egypt is teeming with pale-Arabs and posing as true Egyptian or the Caucasian romans mixing in claiming them sleeve Egyptian . You cannoy use the modern people of that lend today as an example because they come later after the empires

Why do you think "original man" was black with wooly hair?

 

[LightSeeker9]

The black black gene which is the wooly/ kinky/ curly haired dark skin gene which is encoded In melanin which is the same in the cosmos and our sun, dark matter etc is the dominate gene and to the Caucasian gene, blue eyed blond hair is the most recessive gene. You can produce the black, red , yellow , white (albino) seed from black people but white can not produce nothing but white being the recessive gene. So with that being said the original man cannot be nothing other than a black dark skinned African man. Being indigenous to Africa. The oldest bones were found all around Africa of Afrocentric bone structure as opposed to others

 

[Sundance]

One of the reasons the Jews rejected Jesus was because He did not meet their expectations of the Messiah or Christ. They expected one who would unite them and defeat their enemies as King David had. Jesus was no worldly king in that sense. Instead He became the King of peoples hearts and the focal point for their adoration.

That’s true, Adrian. Maybe I’m being too literal in my understanding of Scripture?

 

[LightSeeker9]

The fact that the original man was indigenous to African you can most definitely conclude he was black being the fact he is in African closest to the equator closest to the sun. We thrive in the sun. Who have to be equipped with such dominant genes to even survive for so long

 

[LightSeeker9]

Why do you think they had wooly hair? Most Arabs don't.

The civilizations in the Levant and Mesopotamia didn't originate in Africa. Sumer and Ubaid were old when Egypt was new.




Why do you think "original man" was black with wooly hair?

And also? What period of time do you say the Sumer Civilization began?

 

[sooda]

And also? What period of time do you say the Sumer Civilization began?

The Ubaid period (c. 6500–3800 BC) is a prehistoric period of Mesopotamia.

About 12-13,000 years ago glaciers began to retreat turning the Sahara and Arabia to deserts instead of well watered savannas.

The Natufians, found in Jericho, Egypt and the Jordan Basin. date to 12,000 years ago and we don't know what color they were either. They established agriculture.

Add the Black Sea Breech which was a slow rising flood and that also rapidly dispersed agricultural techniques... so those people and their herds were also on the move.

Also, we know that Africans crossed the Red Sea into Western Arabia about 100,000 years ago. Their tools are the same.

As the Arabian peninsula dried up people began migrating north to Mesopotamia and the Levant in waves..

None of that gives a clue as to skin color or whether they had wooly hair or not.

Are you basing your beliefs on the creation stories in Genesis?

 

[sooda]

How Trade Networks Contributed to the Rise of the Mesopotamia

https://www.quora.com/Where-did-the...ates-who-certainly-look-like-a-different-race