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On the showing of the “pride flag, and appropriate activism.

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I'll give you one example...i was verbally harassed on the phone by a friend of 6 years when I recently told her I was going to go on testosterone. To the point I had to hang up to cry. She said a lot of transphobic, homophobic, sexist, and ableist things in regards to me transitioning. She now no longer talks to me. We are no longer friends cuz im transitioning.
I do not mean to be rude but you initially told me you were non-binary, now you say you are transitioning. If you are non-binary what are you transitioning to exactly? That said, I do find you example disturbing but not for the reasons you are describing.
 

VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
I do not mean to be rude but you initially told me you were non-binary, now you say you are transitioning. If you are non-binary what are you transitioning to exactly?
To where im more comfortable. Some nonbinary folk do go on hormones. I'm hoping that going on T will make my body more androgynous. As I'll have permanant effects from female puberty and from going on T. Either way I'd likely be more comfortable in a more masculine body. My gender is more masc but im not a man.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
I still hear the term "gay" being used as an adjective for negative things. It's a word that is being used now for two things: homosexuality and bad things. I also still hear the term "***" (it starts with "f") used to describe gay people. Maybe there's a regional difference. Much of this seems connected to older folks seeing gay people kissing in commercials and on TV, or being open about it in public. Maybe rural Maine just needs to catch up?
When and were I grew up (rural Indiana, 80's and 90's), "******" was the default insult, and "gay" was the usual descriptor for something being lame.
 

Zwing

Active Member
I'll give you one example...i was verbally harassed on the phone by a friend of 6 years when I recently told her I was going to go on testosterone. To the point I had to hang up to cry. She said a lot of transphobic, homophobic, sexist, and ableist things in regards to me transitioning. She now no longer talks to me. We are no longer friends cuz im transitioning.
I’m very sorry to read this. This issue is extremely hard for the general public (including myself) to understand…much more so than, for instance, homosexuality. Even so, kindness and empathy to others would seem to demand support and reassurance even where there is no understanding. I don’t have to understand the issue to understand that you are a person who needs love and kindness as much as do I.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I'll give you one example...i was verbally harassed on the phone by a friend of 6 years when I recently told her I was going to go on testosterone. To the point I had to hang up to cry. She said a lot of transphobic, homophobic, sexist, and ableist things in regards to me transitioning. She now no longer talks to me. We are no longer friends cuz im transitioning.
IMO she was never truely your friend. Just an acquaintance in life.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
That’s quite interesting. I never knew, and would have imagined otherwise. Maybe the Puritans yet live within us, exerting their sway…I dunno.
Perhaps. History is hard to truly shake, after all

I do remember an old joke we had.
In America, someone getting their head blown off is just a PG. But dare to show a nipple and it instantly becomes an R.

This is years ago now, so I don’t know if that’s still true. Especially post internet and streaming.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Yeah, I didn’t know that. I wonder now if they are there for the month or if they are permanent. The woman that I spoke with mentioned nothing about June being pride month…
Well, what is the appropriate window to keep Christmas (or winter holiday) decorations up? (I find it somewhat interesting that Pride Month is at the exact opposite time of year as Christmas.)
 

Zwing

Active Member
Well, what is the appropriate window to keep Christmas…decorations up?
From midnight on December 24th through midnight on December 26th, IMO. The ridiculous “Santa Claus” charade bugs the heck out of me, along with all the “Jesus” stuff (but that last part is just a personal theological opinion).
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
From midnight on December 24th through midnight on December 26th, IMO. The ridiculous “Santa Claus” charade bugs the heck out of me, along with all the “Jesus” stuff (but that last part is just a personal theological opinion).
I put a couple of strings of white LED (Christmas) lights around the bookshelves in my living room to help brighten it up inside during the cold dark winter. I really appreciated them during the winter. In fact, I like them so much that I just keep them up all year round.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
When and were I grew up (rural Indiana, 80's and 90's), "******" was the default insult, and "gay" was the usual descriptor for something being lame.
Definitely, along with some words (for a different group) I've really only heard there or WWII stuff. Even into the 2010s I still heard many inappropriate things amd it was still an sea of Confederate flags (including the occasional Stars and Bars).
Rural America in general, still today, just has a lot of catching up, growing up amd maturing to do.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
To where im more comfortable. Some nonbinary folk do go on hormones. I'm hoping that going on T will make my body more androgynous. As I'll have permanant effects from female puberty and from going on T. Either way I'd likely be more comfortable in a more masculine body. My gender is more masc but im not a man.
Not to butt in but...

I've been meaning to mention to you, because I've seen you mention this before, but testosterone therapy eventually is going to make you look like a man, not androgynous. That's why I said to you a while ago that it's probably not a good choice unless your goal is to be a man/look like a man.
 

VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Not to butt in but...

I've been meaning to mention to you, because I've seen you mention this before, but testosterone therapy eventually is going to make you look like a man, not androgynous. That's why I said to you a while ago that it's probably not a good choice unless your goal is to be a man/look like a man.
I know.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
From midnight on December 24th through midnight on December 26th, IMO. The ridiculous “Santa Claus” charade bugs the heck out of me, along with all the “Jesus” stuff (but that last part is just a personal theological opinion).

Traditionally, the "holiday season" includes everyone from Advent (starting Dec. 1) to Epiphany (Jan. 6).

Fun fact: in the song "the 12 Days of Christmas," the 12 days were the span from Christmas Day to Epiphany.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Traditionally, the "holiday season" includes everyone from Advent (starting Dec. 1) to Epiphany (Jan. 6).

Fun fact: in the song "the 12 Days of Christmas," the 12 days were the span from Christmas Day to Epiphany.
Amd it's been banned, more than once.
Oh the joys of Christians amd their solid Truth that keeps contradicting the solid Truth of another Christian.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Traditionally, the "holiday season" includes everyone from Advent (starting Dec. 1) to Epiphany (Jan. 6).

Fun fact: in the song "the 12 Days of Christmas," the 12 days were the span from Christmas Day to Epiphany.
Till the 6th of Jan!!?
Damn!
And I thought retail had an extended view of Christmas lol
 

Zwing

Active Member
When and were I grew up (rural Indiana, 80's and 90's), "******" was the default insult, and "gay" was the usual descriptor for something being lame.
This is true in New England, as well, and I suspect everywhere in the country. I think there to be a psychological reason for this having to do with the way that the phonetics of words effect us in the saying…that many of these words remain popular for the same underlying reason as that which made them the most popular descriptors for homosexuality, and that is that the phonetics of the words lend them a certain “punch” which adds satisfaction to the insult from the perspective of the sayer. This popularization of phonetically strong words seems to be a common phenomenon within American vulgar speech. We see this same thing with the so-called “n word”, which has taken on an entirely new life devoid of it’s original meaning among American young people, having come to mean something like “mate”, “pal”, “boy”, etc., in its reformulated spelling of “nigga”. In fact, it has largely replaced said older words to render that meaning among many young people, both “white” and “black” (hate those terms). This phenomenon is a notable part of the increasing vulgarization of American speech, and is one which I find particularly bothersome. It is very curious to me that the term “gay” should have come to mean something like “lame” or “wrong” in light of the fact that the true, original meaning was (is?) “happy”!
 
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We Never Know

No Slack
Because the common criticism of homosexuality was that it was a “sinful lifestyle.”
I realise that my sarcasm doesn’t always translate well in text form, due to the lack of tonal inflections. And I apologise for that.
I kind of figured such a criticism was in the “minds of the mainstream enough” (if you follow) that folks here would naturally pick up on my jab.
Apologies if I made that unclear or made too many assumptions.

"Lifestyle--
the way of life for a person, group or society"

So why wouldn't they be lifestyles?
 

Zwing

Active Member
"Lifestyle--
the way of life for a person, group or society"

So why wouldn't they be lifestyles?
I think because they are, rather, innate behavioral predispositions. The “heterosexual” or “homosexual” lifestyle is the inevitable result of heterosexuality or homosexuality, but sexuality doesn’t refer to lifestyle but to predisposition that a person is born with.
 
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