Once Again The United States Supreme Court Blows It

[Saint Frankenstein]

1. marked by, involved in, or belonging to ceremony : stressing careful attention to form and detail.

2. having no real power or influence.

Check the second definition in bold.

I see, but secular governments still have no business making religious statements.

 

[Sundance]

I see, but secular governments still have no business making religious statements.

I understand how you feel, Frank.

 

[columbus]

However, it represents the majority. So you, the tail has no business trying to wag the dog. Get over it.

Does it?
Most of the secularists I know are quite religious. But they don't want the government involved in religious beliefs, because they don't trust the government that much.
You apparently have a good deal more Faith in the government than I do.
Tom

 

[shmogie]

Does it?
Most of the secularists I know are quite religious. But they don't want the government involved in religious beliefs, because they don't trust the government that much.
You apparently have a good deal more Faith in the government than I do.
Tom

No, not the case. The first amendment says what it says. It does not say there is a wall between church and state. It says that the government cannot establish a state supported religion.

Now then, is what is at question an attempt at establishing an official state recognized and state supported, i.e, funded, religion under control of the state ? Like Britain had/has at the time of the writing of the Constitution ?

Itś called original intent.

The answer is no.

 

[columbus]

No, not the case. The first amendment says what it says. It does not say there is a wall between church and state. It says that the government cannot establish a state supported religion.

Now then, is what is at question an attempt at establishing an official state recognized and state supported, i.e, funded, religion under control of the state ? Like Britain had/has at the time of the writing of the Constitution ?

Itś called original intent.

The answer is no.

The answer to what?

My question is why do Christians and the government think that causing division in the USA, over a meaningless phrase on currency, is the best thing to do? Now, in 2019.

My answer is that Christianity and the USA government are arrogant and abrasive and like causing division.
Spartan spelled it out very well.

Yea for the Supreme Court! Atheists can go pound sand.

That's the Christian response. "Who care what the citizens think, Christians are the only people that matter! They're The Chosen People.".

I don't care about this. It's just Christians being Christians. I know what they're like. I've lived in a Christian world for over 60 years. I fully expect Christians to be abrasive, arrogant, violent, exclusive, and powerful.

Tom

 

[shmogie]

The answer to what?

My question is why do Christians and the government think that causing division in the USA, over a meaningless phrase on currency, is the best thing to do? Now, in 2019.

My answer is that Christianity and the USA government are arrogant and abrasive and like causing division.
Spartan spelled it out very well.


That's the Christian response. "Who care what the citizens think, Christians are the only people that matter! They're The Chosen People.".

I don't care about this. It's just Christians being Christians. I know what they're like. I've lived in a Christian world for over 60 years. I fully expect Christians to be abrasive, arrogant, violent, exclusive, and powerful.

Tom

You asked the question ¨ do I you trust government that much ?´

It would have been have been nice if you would have put my statement in context.

Suing because a cross is in a government operated cemetery, or a star of David, or a Muslim moon, isn´t divisive ? Suing because a government maintained WW1 memorial put up in the 1920ś isn´t divisive ? Suing because a military officer in uniform mentions God at a miltary commencement speech isn´t divisive?. Denying state approved funds for safe playgrounds to a small church school because itś playground is is attached to a church school, while other private non Christian schools get the funds isn´t divisive ? I could cite many examples.

The atheist group in question roams the country, going into the tiniest towns, seeking something, anything to sue them about re Christianity. In one case they sued a little town because they spent $37.00 dollars a month in have the town gardeners mow a church school lawn, the residents couldn´t have cared less.

Have you ever thought that your personality may be why you are treated as you are ? You fully expect ? Ever think you are engineering self fulfilled expectations ? sounds like it.

When you have evaluated a few million Christians on your personal behavior chart, your observations might have some validity.

I recently read an article written by an anthropologist regarding atheists across the world.

His conclusion ? except for the European states, no matter the predominant culture or religion, atheists said they were treated poorly. Apparently they get under most everybodyś skin.