One Infinite Expanding Universe

[Jimmy]

And when will it achieve this infinite state you mention?

It already has

 

[Jimmy]

One Infinite Expanding Universe​

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Om not sure I'm understanding you. Can a specific infinity expand?

The infinite universe? Yes. It’s easy for me to grasp.

 

[wellwisher]

One universe is all we know though it is hypothesised that there are other universes besides ours.

In a new study, Stanford physicists Andrei Linde and Vitaly Vanchurin have calculated the number of all possible universes, coming up with an answer of 10^10^16. If that number sounds large, the scientists explain that it would have been even more humongous, except that we observers are limited in our ability to distinguish more universes; otherwise, there could be as many as 10^10^10^7 universes.​

Physicists Calculate Number of Parallel Universes​

As for earth being the only habitable planet, again it's the only one we know but the list of known exo planets is increasing daily, to date there are over 5000 exo planets discovered in our small region of space, some of those are potentially habitable.

The Habitable Exoplanets Catalog is also a great resource and currently lists 63 known potentially habitable exoplanets. Twenty-three of those are Earth-sized​

| EarthSky​

The Other Universes Theory, is an unconscious omission that the current theory is not integrated enough to account for anomalous data that keeps appearing. This is an indirect way to blame the other universes, for the shortcoming of the current theory. This way the current theory can stay and we can expand the bandaids.

It is like being in charge of the refreshment refrigerator and snack cabinet, in the Executive Lunch Room. Things are missing and some people are complaining of no snacks and only light beers. Rather than accept that your shopping is not good, you blame it on others sneaking in and stealing inventory. This way it is not your fault, but rather we need to add security; bandaids.

The main problem is not being able to look at before time=0. A better genesis model, starting before time=0, may fill in the voids; stronger foundation.

The same is true of life on other planets. The current theory needs all these extra possible planets to sustain the dice and cards approach to life, used by the life sciences. The more lottery tickets we can buy, the better the odds of winning in a black box. This justifies spending more instead of updating to a more rational model based on cause and effect.

Say the formation of life on earth, not only needed water, but say it also needed the earth to have an iron core. Science is now showing, which I preposed 20-30 years ago, that water is continuous to the core of the earth. The higher the temperature and pressure, water changes phases, and becomes more and more aggressive toward earth minerals, with the 2nd law driving this entropy increase; dissolve more and more inner earth, by eating/dissolving its way to the core. It heads to higher temperature and pressure.

Iron is electron rich and the hydrogen protons of exotic ionic water at those conditions, are able to react and strip electrons; rust the outer iron to Fe+2, Fe+3, and free electrons. These electron will then head to the surface, due to the atmospheric water which has a positive charge due to broken hydrogen bonds of liquid water; solar powered evaporation.

The oceans have slight negative charge implicit of extra free electrons. Without this extra source of electrons, that can last billions of years due the amount of iron in the core, the surface water would be slightly different; less reducing. The moons of Jupiter may have water, but not iron, due to being so far away; gas planets. Dice and cards can avoid practical logic, since casinos are about having fun.

 

[ChristineM]

The infinite universe? Yes. It’s easy for me to grasp.

But expanding? The universe is expanding but can an infinity expand?

By definition there are several infinities from infinitely small to infinity large but i can find no reference to them expanding. I personally think it's impossible for an infinity to expand or contract that would make a mockery of infinity.

 

[Jimmy]

But expanding? The universe is expanding but can an infinity expand?

By definition there are several infinities from infinitely small to infinity large but i can find no reference to them expanding. I personally think it's impossible for an infinity to expand or contract that would make a mockery of infinity.

That’s the power of infinity. Mockery? Just the ooposite. Makes infinity more majestic.

 

[HonestJoe]

It more than a belief for me. Much much more.

You mean you believe it's more than a belief for you. Most people with any strongly held beliefs feel that way because they need to create justification for sticking to their beliefs rather than those expressed by other people, or even actual evidence that might challenge them. A kind of "grass is always greener on this side" thing.

The simple fact is that your unsupported beliefs are no more (or less) meaningful than the unsupported beliefs of everyone else in the world. That's why we don't rely on them for determining anything important.

 

[Jimmy]

But expanding? The universe is expanding but can an infinity expand?

By definition there are several infinities from infinitely small to infinity large but i can find no reference to them expanding. I personally think it's impossible for an infinity to expand or contract that would make a mockery of infinity.

It’s expanding infinitely. It’s pretty simple to gasp. First, you have to grasp infinity, which is simple. Then you have to picture it expanding throughout.

 

[ChristineM]

The Other Universes Theory hypothesis

Fixed

an unconscious omission that the current theory hypothesis is not integrated enough to account for anomalous data that keeps appearing.

Fixed again
Nonsense. Unless of course you have cosmological evidence, which i haven't seen

This is an indirect way to blame the other universes, for the shortcoming of the current theory hypothesis.

And again
Nope, again nonsense, every hypothesis must be based of mathematical accuracy or physical observations.

This way the current theory can stay and we can expand the bandaids.

Again, hypothesis

The thing is, it is not known either way so you say, "keep it as is and stagnate" while cosmologists and others say, "lets see if we can learn something new from evidence we have."

 

[ChristineM]

It’s expanding infinitely. It’s pretty simple to gasp. First, you have to grasp infinity, which is simple. Then you have to picture it expanding throughout.

The universe can "potentially" expand to infinity, i.e. according to measurements (to 6 decimal places) it's flat and therefore can expand for ever.
That does not mean it is infinite, just that it could be given infinite time.

Actually im getting less and less sure a physical infinity exits. It seems counter intuitive to keep adding* distance until you cannot add anymore.

* Or subtracting.

 

[Jimmy]

The universe can "potentially" expand to infinity, i.e. according to measurements (to 6 decimal places) it's flat and therefore can expand for ever.
That does not mean it is infinite, just that it could be given infinite time.

Actually im getting less and less sure a physical infinity exits. It seems counter intuitive to keep adding* distance until you cannot add anymore.

* Or subtracting.

I’m pretty sure it’s physical and it’s infinite. It’s what I call God.

 

[ChristineM]

I’m pretty sure it’s physical and it’s infinite. It’s what I call God.

I'm pretty sure it's not infinite (yet) and i call it the universe.
Different minds eh?

 

[Jimmy]

I'm pretty sure it's not infinite (yet) and i call it the universe.
Different minds eh?

Yeah, you wouldn’t think it was infinite because you believe in a Multiverse.

 

[Jimmy]

You mean you believe it's more than a belief for you. Most people with any strongly held beliefs feel that way because they need to create justification for sticking to their beliefs rather than those expressed by other people, or even actual evidence that might challenge them. A kind of "grass is always greener on this side" thing.

The simple fact is that your unsupported beliefs are no more (or less) meaningful than the unsupported beliefs of everyone else in the world. That's why we don't rely on them for determining anything important.

No. I don’t believe it’s more than a belief.

 

[Twilight Hue]

One Infinite Expanding Universe​

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Om not sure I'm understanding you. Can a specific infinity expand?

Yeah that's confusing me too. You can't really expand Infinity.

 

[Jimmy]

Yeah that's confusing me too. You can't really expand Infinity.

It’s expanding infinitely. It’s pretty simple to gasp. First, you have to grasp infinite space, which is simple. Then you have to picture it expanding throughout.

 

[ChristineM]

Yeah, you wouldn’t think it was infinite because you believe in a Multiverse.

I don't think it's infinite because infinity (if it exists) is too big, bigger than you can imagine. And the universe, according to various calculations, is finite.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It’s expanding infinitely. It’s pretty simple to gasp. First, you have to grasp infinite space, which is simple. Then you have to picture it expanding throughout.

Problem is infinity dosent have boundaries or borders. An infinite timeline dosent have a beginning or end.

 

[Jimmy]

Problem is infinity dosent have boundaries or borders. An infinite timeline dosent have a beginning or end.

Well, it seems you have grasped what infinity is you’ve understood that it doesn’t have any boundaries. Now just grasp the idea of it expanding throughout.

 

[Jimmy]

I don't think it's infinite because infinity (if it exists) is too big, bigger than you can imagine. And the universe, according to various calculations, is finite.

Right, which leads to your next belief about Multiverse

 

[Twilight Hue]

Well, it seems you have grasped what infinity is you’ve understood that it doesn’t have any boundaries. Now just grasp the idea of it expanding throughout.

Yea but the universe won't be around for infinity. I guarantee nothing today will be remotely recognizable far down the timeline.