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One of the reason I don't believe in myths

tetra46

Member
Homo Habilis: nick named 'Handy Man' were the first true humans on the planet and lived almost 1.8 to 1.6 million BCE. They also lived in the Stone Age and were very good at the making of tools. Africa was home to these humans and the evidence of their existence is overwhelming.

Their tools were mainly made of stone and we are quite sure they sheltered under cliffs, whenever possible. It seems they also camped from site to site moving about the area's in search of roots, fruits, nuts and vegetables that they found growing wild. They also had to survive many dangers from sabre-toothed tigers or cave lions and although they did not know how to make fire, they did know animals were afraid of fire. Because they did not have the skills to make fire they had to wait until they found something burning from natural causes, set aflame, for example, from lightening. They could then move the fire from camp to camp hoping the flames never went out. If these fires did go out then they went without until fire was found again.

Remains of their campfires have been found and dated. Scientists have found stone tools at these sites! Animal bones have been found, as well. Technically, although animal bones would be called "trash", they indicate that Homo habilis man hunted game and/or scavenged fat-rich marrow from bones. These remains also tell us that Homo habilis probably did not stay in one place very long, but were always on the move, in search of food.

With the above information Homo Habilis never worshipped a single God that most faiths do today. However they would have become superstitious over time, after all they were about for 1.8 million years. Fire is what most believed was worshipped because it was used for warmth and protection from wild beast. Now coming to the point I want to put is after 1000's of years their belief's 'like mans present belief's' made mankind no better or worst. In fact they survived quite well for nearly 2 millions years without the words of a sinreligious books as we do today. This should also prove they needed no single God or faith in all their history BUT STILL SURVIVED over a massive time difference than our present single God era.

This is just one reason my believe in a God is nullified. Over the past 6000 years of a single god belief our lifes are no better than before, like the Homo Habilis. We murder, slave, divide folk and even put our own women down. We can be so strong in belief of faith that we close our ears to all rational ideas. Man should have gave up the myths of all religions years ago, our intelligents tell us this and our research confirms it. Could it be that many humans have a metal block in their mind that has over time become the norm? We can only wonder.

This is only one of the many reasons for my distaste of religions. I intend to put forward other reasons in the near future.

Tetra

Quote: The only thing that separates us from the animals are mindless superstitions and pointless rituals. Latka Gravas (Any Kauffman). Can anyone remember what TV show this guy was part of?
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Hi Tetra;


That makes interesting reading, esecially as I was born in Africa.

There was such a 'Jumble' of faiths - Vodoo, Islam and Christianity. My father had a native worker who changed from Christianity to Islam, and back again regularly - either to permit himself another wife, or to have an excuse to 'give the boot' to an unwanted one.

Of course, I have my own views on the subject you have brought up, but I look forward to your further posts.;)
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Tetra, what makes you think Homo sapiens isn't naturally superstitious? You seem to believe that we should have "outgrown" superstition by now, but what if we are naturally superstitious?
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
I guess I'm not sure, if my path encourages me to help others and to respect the environment, what bother it is to anyone else if I follow it.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Sunstone; I am getting worried about you - I have noticed this trend in superstition lately in your posts; for example I'm well aware of the garlic watermark you use in your posts:tsk: .........
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
michel said:
Sunstone; I am getting worried about you - I have noticed this trend in superstition lately in your posts; for example I'm well aware of the garlic watermark you use in your posts:tsk: .........
Hehehe. Just a little precaution I take in case there's any werewolves around. Are you implying it's not sensible?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Tetra said:
We can be so strong in belief of faith that we close our ears to all rational ideas. Man should have gave up the myths of all religions years ago, our intelligents tell us this and our research confirms it. Could it be that many humans have a metal block in their mind that has over time become the norm?
I don't think there's a "mental block in [the human] mind that has over time become the norm." Rather, I think the human mind is naturally superstitious. I doubt there is any research that shows man should have given up the myths of all religions years ago. Rather, I believe that as long as we are Homo sapiens, we will have to learn how to deal and cope with our naturally superstitious minds. Each generation will have to learn and relearn the lessons of how to deal with our naturally superstitious minds. It's just part of being human.
 

tetra46

Member
FeathersinHair said:
(Oh, and I think Andy Kaufman was on the TV show "Taxi.")

I accept some people will always be superstitous, I only hope they are in a minority...Tetra
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
tetra46 said:
I accept some people will always be superstitous, I only hope they are in a minority...Tetra
Tetra;

Just one simple question.........Do you dance ?

I ask this absurd sounding question, because dancing emanates from pagan rituals; that, in itself is a superstition, and a ritual; the whole of society is riddled with superstition and ritual...........:)
 

Kowalski

Active Member
tetra46 said:
I accept some people will always be superstitous, I only hope they are in a minority...Tetra
I think you'll find that most people are superstitous, even if they profess not to be. However, some of these quaint beliefs are sensible. For instance, in the UK it is thought to be unlucky to walk under a ladder, and with good reason, things can easliy fall on your head dropped by careless workmen.

God or no God, things just totter on in the same old way.

Cheers

Kowalski:jam:
 

tetra46

Member
I already agreed most people are superstitous and this will always go on. All I am saying is "I hope that one day that most people will not be superstitous"

It is a little different however to being religious as I strongly believe one day all religions will die, folk will still be superstitous but not in a religious way.

Religion today is not that different to the Greek Gods from our past. The Greeks ruled by using their religious laws. They also had many wars with folk of different faiths. The point that gets me is many humans died because of a belief that no one today believes in. This really means that people were killed for no real point. Killed by a faith that is now dead and buried. What with the pointless deaths caused by the Egyptian faith gives me little faith (excuse the pun) in letting us humans even have the right to continue with any religion. How come we once believed so strongly in religions set by the Greek/Egyptians that we would kill for 'and yet' we now know was a load of bull. And' if you think about it, why can't we be wrong about the faiths of today?

If we were wrong about the old faiths then we must be just as wrong about the faiths of today. Tetra I will be talking more about this topic at sometime
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
tetra46 said:
I accept some people will always be superstitous, I only hope they are in a minority...Tetra
Why would you think that about Andy Kaufman? Or is my answering your question superstition?
 

tetra46

Member
Feathersinhair, I think you are a little off track.
It was Andy Kaufman who quoted the qoute I put to paper, if I'm off track please let me know.
Michel' I will read your topic soon..Thanks
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
*puzzled* Yes, that's why I thought I was replying to your comment in which you mentioned the series he was on. Unless you were quoting my answer but were replying to my original intent? Either way, I'm very happy for you to follow your own path. I hope you are not trying to say that I disgust you enough that you'd prefer I was in the minority. :eek:
 

Quoth The Raven

Half Arsed Muse
tetra46 said:
If we were wrong about the old faiths then we must be just as wrong about the faiths of today.
Um...there's a few followers of the 'old faiths' on this board...in so far as we are able to be.
 

Radar

Active Member
michel said:
Tetra;

Just one simple question.........Do you dance ?

I ask this absurd sounding question, because dancing emanates from pagan rituals; that, in itself is a superstition, and a ritual; the whole of society is riddled with superstition and ritual...........:)

You have to bee kidding! Babies, children, and kids of all races and origins will dance and move to music and they know nothing of any ritual or religion. I am talking about children less than 3 years of age. So your theory about this being a pagan thing is absurd.
 

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
tetra46 said:
If we were wrong about the old faiths then we must be just as wrong about the faiths of today. Tetra I will be talking more about this topic at sometime

I think the old faiths are some of the richest and most beautiful religions available to people today and I often encourage people to return to their ancestral religions, as religion isn't, imo, a one size fits all kind of deal. The old faiths weren't wrong.
 
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