One of the reason I don't believe in myths

[Quoth The Raven]

Lets go back to the Vikings(and further) who believe you got into Valhalla only by dying in combat, they did a lot of murder etc in Europe for around 100 years.

You could get into Valhalla by dying during combat, but it isn't automatically so...there's a division of labour, so to speak. Also, not dying in combat doesn't mean there's nowhere to go, otherwise what would be the point of following those gods now, unless - as someone once pointed out in an article I read - you were in the armed forces. Actually, if the whole religion was solely about being killed during a barny then it would be more likely something for a sect of bachelor soldiers, as a religion that values only the slain in battle doesn't hold out much to the women and children who follow it, now does it?
If you're basing your whole opinion of the Vikings on what happened during a '100 year' period, then you're ignoring by far the majority of their achievements. They were around for just a little longer than that and did plenty of other things, in case you were unaware that the sum of their achievements wasn't settling a little patch of England's green and pleasant land.

 

[tetra46]

What in the world did I start, fantastic reply from all! Thanks very must. I do like Andy's (agchmq) replies to many points and I agree with him on most. I am sure however he is not attacking any single religion, but religion in general.

A lot of folk laugh at others over their wild imaginations. If a child till believes in the easter bunny when reaching the age of 21 then most people would think that this person is not quite right in their mind. In fact they would think this person is totally mad and needs to be put away somewhere for his/hers own safety. Tell me' what's the different between the easter bunny and let say 'Greek Gods'. If there are folk today that do still believe in the latter (and let me be the first to state that if some still do believe in the Greek Gods, then the best of luck to them) wouldn't most folk believe these to be a little mad too? And if one defends that the belief in the Greek Gods still/or should exist today then the same said folk should also believe that the easter bunny exists too. I believe you can't have it both ways and no one will change my views on the issue.

I must agree with the person who states faith is whatever one wants it to be. There are many who need a faith for comfort. Faiths are normally based on myths and as long as folk don't mind believing in a myth based faith then that's fine by me. Only don't try and tell me I have to follow a myth based belief.

I can't remember who attacked the point about early mankind. You need to check the facts. These facts should be online somewhere with all the evidence one needs but I know there are people out there who will always question facts and I have little time for these folk. I still can't believe there are some nuts who believe the holocaust never happened, it would not surprise me if there are whose who may not believe that A-bombs were once dropped on Japan. My point is: the latter facts are strong, very strong and the facts of early mankind are just as strong.

Just a little thought: I believe there are many a folk that are scared that there maybe no god/s and will attack non-believers left right and centre NO-MATTER-WHAT?

How sad

Tetra :banghead3

 

[Feathers in Hair]

*looks around*

The majority of us aren't asking you to follow a myth-based belief. Please don't condemn those of us who aren't.

 

[michel]

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................"Just a little thought: I believe there are many a folk that are scared that there maybe no god/s and will attack non-believers left right and centre NO-MATTER-WHAT?"............................

How sad

Tetra :banghead3[/PART QUOTE]

I agree, you make a valid point; how sad for them.

 

[Fluffy]

A lot of folk laugh at others over their wild imaginations. If a child till believes in the easter bunny when reaching the age of 21 then most people would think that this person is not quite right in their mind. In fact they would think this person is totally mad and needs to be put away somewhere for his/hers own safety. Tell me' what's the different between the easter bunny and let say 'Greek Gods'. If there are folk today that do still believe in the latter (and let me be the first to state that if some still do believe in the Greek Gods, then the best of luck to them) wouldn't most folk believe these to be a little mad too? And if one defends that the belief in the Greek Gods still/or should exist today then the same said folk should also believe that the easter bunny exists too. I believe you can't have it both ways and no one will change my views on the issue.

I am in total agreement with you on this tetra. We both agree that there is no difference between believing in God and believing in the Easter Bunny. We merely differ in our conclusions.

 

[Quoth The Raven]

A lot of folk laugh at others over their wild imaginations. If a child till believes in the easter bunny when reaching the age of 21 then most people would think that this person is not quite right in their mind. In fact they would think this person is totally mad and needs to be put away somewhere for his/hers own safety.

Not necesarily. I most certainly believe in rabbits, and with the rabbit being symbolic of the goddess, you can just take that to it's logical conclusion and say every rabbit is an 'Easter Bunny'. Last I heard, believing in the existence of rabbits didn't automatically indicate insanity (unless you've ever seen 'Harvey'. Even then, the giant invisible rabbit could affect the real world and so must have existed on some level)

Just a little thought: I believe there are many a folk that are scared that there maybe no god/s and will attack non-believers left right and centre NO-MATTER-WHAT?

How sad

Tetra :banghead3

It is sad that some people are so insecure in their faith that they feel the need to attack others who do not share it. By the same token, some of them feel that the rest of us are insecure in what we believe because we don't believe the same thing they do and will not be shy about saying so.
It's all relative to what side of the fence you're standing on.

 

[Unedited]

With the above information Homo Habilis never worshipped a single God that most faiths do today. However they would have become superstitious over time, after all they were about for 1.8 million years. Fire is what most believed was worshipped because it was used for warmth and protection from wild beast. Now coming to the point I want to put is after 1000's of years their belief's 'like mans present belief's' made mankind no better or worst. In fact they survived quite well for nearly 2 millions years without the words of a sinreligious books as we do today. This should also prove they needed no single God or faith in all their history BUT STILL SURVIVED over a massive time difference than our present single God era.

How do you know that? How can any one ever really know that? Maybe Homo Habilis worshipped the same god that Christians do today? They may not have worshipped him in the quite the same way, but how can any say that just because they didn't build churches or bury their dead in the same way, that God was still God back then too.

And I don't think there was ever a question of whether or not people could surivive without worship, just that their souls wouldn't.

 

[Unedited]

Some of you wonderful folk up here don't seem to read too carefully. I stated that some old and new faiths will always be with us, I don't like the idea but I'll manage to live with it. I only mentioned in my topic that the Egyptian and Greek gods had been put away to be worshipped no more, and; if man got that wrong then we are almost 100% sure the rest of the faiths are wrong too.

But they are still worshipped by some.

I am so sorry Darkdale but I disagree with you about the old faiths. You have no proof what-so-ever that old faiths were right, in fact there is much evidence that most old faiths were very cruel and often killed humans in the name of their faiths.

What evidence? What old faiths? Plenty of people today kill humans in the name of their faiths also.

 

[Feathers in Hair]

It is sad that some people are so insecure in their faith that they feel the need to attack others who do not share it. By the same token, some of them feel that the rest of us are insecure in what we believe because we don't believe the same thing they do and will not be shy about saying so.
It's all relative to what side of the fence you're standing on.

Beautifully put.

 

[Unedited]

A lot of folk laugh at others over their wild imaginations. If a child till believes in the easter bunny when reaching the age of 21 then most people would think that this person is not quite right in their mind. In fact they would think this person is totally mad and needs to be put away somewhere for his/hers own safety. Tell me' what's the different between the easter bunny and let say 'Greek Gods'. If there are folk today that do still believe in the latter (and let me be the first to state that if some still do believe in the Greek Gods, then the best of luck to them) wouldn't most folk believe these to be a little mad too? And if one defends that the belief in the Greek Gods still/or should exist today then the same said folk should also believe that the easter bunny exists too. I believe you can't have it both ways and no one will change my views on the issue.

You can never prove anything, only disprove it. The problem is that the easter bunny promises to bring colored eggs on Easter morning. Now, has anyone ever gotten eggs from the easter bunny? The Greek gods, however, never promised anything so concrete.

One of my high school teachers defined insanity as such: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. If you go through life never receiving any eggs from the easter bunny, and still believe in him, that follows with that definition of insanity.

I see little difference between believing in the easter bunny and believing in Greek gods, but there is a difference.

 

[tetra46]

Please please please, the easter bunny was only a example Unedite you could use any example i.e: Father Christmas, the Tooth Fairy or even Werewolfs. There are hundreds of examples so lets please keep our feet on the ground.

You ask for proof? there is proof my friend, only I believe you and many like don't want to accept it and since I already stated that earlier I am not in favor of keep repeating myself on the topic. There is however, no proof what-so-ever that there is a god. There is no evidence what-so-ever outside of the religious text books of any gods too. What you believe in is what you want and I would always back your right to believe in what you want in a free and just world.

There were many wars between the South America tribes over religions or land. Whose who lost were often sacrificed on the summit of pyramids and the blood stained altar can still be seen today. Archaeologist have found the proof and this proof is open for all to see, there is no hiding this evidence. And please remember; the above is only an example, there is good solid evidence on who and what they believed too.

Your statement: "I see little difference between believing in the easter bunny and believing in Greek gods, but there is a difference." The only difference I see is TIME.

You followed another i.e: ("How do you know that? How can any one ever really know that? Maybe Homo Habilis worshipped the same god that Christians do today? They may not have worshipped him in the quite the same way, but how can any say that just because they didn't build churches or bury their dead in the same way, that God was still God back then too.") You miss the point my friend. I don't care who or what they worshipped, they are all the same 'myths'.