Oneness

[TransmutingSoul]

Don't forget manure, nothing grows as well as it does with a liberal spreading of manure.

This creation is cyclic.

Regards Tony

 

[rational experiences]

God is One
Mankind is One

I see the entire structure of creation shows a cohesive bond is necessary for growth, including the human mindset.

Thus diversity does not negate our essential oneness.

This is the link the following quote is from.

What Would Happen If Everyone Truly Believed Everything Is One?

Beautiful Minds - What Would Happen If Everyone Truly Believed Everything Is One?

Implications of a Belief in Oneness

".......People who believe that everything is fundamentally one differ in crucial ways from those who do not. In general, those who hold a belief in oneness have a more inclusive identity that reflects their sense of connection with other people, nonhuman animals, and aspects of nature that are all thought to be part of the same "one thing." This has some rather broad implications.

First, this finding is relevant to our current fractured political landscape. It is very interesting that those who reported a greater belief in oneness were also more likely to regard other people like members of their own group and to identify with all of humanity. There is an abundance of identity politics these days, with people believing that their own ideology is the best one, and a belief that those who disagree with one's own ideology are evil or somehow less than human....."

Is oneness compatible with Science?
Is oneness compatible with Religion?
Is oneness compatible with Humanity?

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Regards Tony

Reasoning.

If you then ask a human as a scientist by science to believe everything is just one. He concludes for science hence a human is the same substance as a God so let me burn you up as a resource for my owned created machines.

Claiming my machine is owner one!

 

[idea]

Don't forget manure, nothing grows as well as it does with a liberal spreading of manure.

No mud, no lotus as the saying goes - yin and yang.

 

[Vinayaka]

It is all embracing.

Regards Tony

So you've given up on some Baha'i tenets? Good to hear. Congratulations!

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Reasoning.

If you then ask a human as a scientist by science to believe everything is just one. He concludes for science hence a human is the same substance as a God so let me burn you up as a resource for my owned created machines.

Claiming my machine is owner one!

All machines also disolve back to the basic building blocks of all life. The elements then dispersed and the cycles continue.

Regards Tony

 

[Vinayaka]

It is indeed the soul of a poet to embrace the oneness. Here is one I wrote some time ago.

"One God One Faith"

One God, One Faith,
One Spirit, One Race,
One Promise, One Aim,
One Love, much to Gain,
One Vision, One End,
One purpose to comprehend.

World Unity now in Play,
One way to portray,
Teach One, Teach All,
To Teach now the call. (TBS23/11/2012)

Regards Tony

One God? One Faith? Which god did you have in mind? Which faith?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

So you've given up on some Baha'i tenets? Good to hear. Congratulations!

No I have not given up on those aspect as that is my faith and my faith embraces the unity of humanity in its diversity. Oneness does not mean sameness.

Regards Tony

 

[Vinayaka]

No I have not given up on those aspect as that is my faith and my faith embraces the unity of humanity in its diversity. Oneness does not mean sameness.

Regards Tony

You said it was all inclusive. That's plainly a contradiction, and has been shown on these forums repeatedly. Either you deny what your own guy has said, or you ignore what he said. Which is it?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

One God? One Faith? Which god did you have in mind? Which faith?

That poem came about during meditation on the oneness of humanity. I see all faith is one to which we have diversified to include some exclusive doctrines that are not reflection the essential oneness of humanity.

I attempt to look betond the doctrine to the source.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

You said it was all inclusive. That's plainly a contradiction, and has been shown on these forums repeatedly. Either you deny what your own guy has said, or you ignore what he said. Which is it?

Those are your ultimatums, not mine. I search for oneness, not further divisions.

Regards Tony

 

[Vinayaka]

That poem came about during meditation on the oneness of humanity. I see all faith is one to which we have diversified to include some exclusive doctrines that are not reflection the essential oneness of humanity.

I attempt to look betond the doctrine to the source.

Regards Tony

God? One God? That excludes atheists, polytheists, even henotheists like me. One faith? What doctrine? What source? If the doctrine is the Baha'i faith, and the source is Baha'u'llah that it's not very religious of you to be looking beyond them? What exactly do you see beyond them anyway?

 

[Vinayaka]

Those are your ultimatums, not mine. I search for oneness, not further divisions.

Regards Tony

Which ultimatums? Did I make ultimatums?

 

[Vinayaka]

Don't forget manure, nothing grows as well as it does with a liberal spreading of manure.

Particularly if it comes from a bull.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

God? One God? That excludes atheists, polytheists, even henotheists like me. One faith? What doctrine? What source? If the doctrine is the Baha'i faith, and the source is Baha'u'llah that it's not very religious of you to be looking beyond them? What exactly do you see beyond them anyway?

Are you looking for the division? Let's smell the roses, let's work together.

Regards Tony

 

[PruePhillip]

God is One
Mankind is One

Thus diversity does not negate our essential oneness.
Regards Tony

This is the Humanist Religion
It can get every bit as nasty as any other religion.

Yes, we can Imagine, as Lennon did, no possessions, no nations, everybody living in peace.
It only takes a single person to take advantage of that and negate your 'oneness'

 

[TransmutingSoul]

..........Either you deny what your own guy has said, or you ignore what he said. Which is it?

Which ultimatums? Did I make ultimatums?

Either you deny, or
You ignore,
Which is it.

Is that not asking for an ultimatum from me?

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

This is the Humanist Religion
It can get every bit as nasty as any other religion.

Yes, we can Imagine, as Lennon did, no possessions, no nations, everybody living in peace.
It only takes a single person to take advantage of that and negate your 'oneness'

I do not see oneness precludes the full range of virtues, that it is incluse of Good/Evil, Light/Darkness, Love/Hate etc.

Regards Tony

 

[Vinayaka]

Are you looking for the division? Let's smell the roses, let's work together.

Regards Tony

Hindus have always been truly inclusive, and still are, so I personally get it. We got it 5000 years before Baha'u'llah came along to claim he was right and we were wrong.

 

[Vinayaka]

Either you deny, or
You ignore,
Which is it.

Is that not asking for an ultimatum from me?

Regards Tony

Yeah, I guess so. When you make contradictory statements, that's a natural response I think.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Hindus have always been truly inclusive, and still are, so I personally get it. We got it 5000 years before Baha'u'llah came along to claim he was right and we were wrong.

Well done Hindus, yet I see it needs to be global.

Regards Tony