Oneness

[RestlessSoul]

Everything is connected, everything is part of the one molecular dance. Physicists know this;

“You pick a flower on earth, and move the farthest star” - Paul Dirac

“What causes events to happen in the world, what writes it’s history, is the irreversible mixing of all things, going from the few ordered configurations to the countless disordered ones. The entire universe is like a mountain that collapses in slow motion. Like a structure that very gradually crumbles.”
- Carlo Rovelli

“Those atoms [that form our brains] have been in stars and travelling through intergalactic space. They were part of a water molecule perhaps, or once skirted the event horizon of a black hole on the other side of the universe. Ultimately, they can trace their origins to the moment after the Big Bang, when the universe first saw matter. And those imprints that one atom left on another back then continue to exert their influence now, even as carbon based life forms attempt to construct stories about how the universe really works.”
- Michael Brooks

 

[stvdv]

God is One
Mankind is One

The Quest "Who Am I ?" solves this

IF you identify with body, mind, senses
THEN mankind seems not One

IF you identify with Atma
THEN mankind is One

Is oneness compatible with Science?

Yes

Is oneness compatible with Religion?

Yes

Is oneness compatible with Humanity?

Yes, and humanity will be humane

 

[stvdv]

Is oneness compatible with Science?
Is oneness compatible with Religion?
Is oneness compatible with Humanity?

This concept of "One" = Unity in Diversity is a very powerful concept. Focus on differences easily leads to fights. Focus on Unity solves fights

@loverofhumanity. Here a good video link (as you requested recently) of Sai Baba giving a discourse on this "One" concept
(The first few minutes He talks about "One")
(After that He explains how to "get" Peace)
(And how to experience "Divine Love")

@stvdvRF

 

[Martin]

Heart and mind can be one.

In what sense do you mean? They seem quite different to me.

 

[RestlessSoul]

In what sense do you mean? They seem quite different to me.

Through the unity of the Holy Spirit, Martin.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

In what sense do you mean? They seem quite different to me.

Mind has two choices. It is drawn to the material world and its animal state (lower nature) or to its higher self driven by Love which is the metaphor of the heart.

Our heart is symbolic of our choice in Love and Vitues.

Regards Tony

 

[Vinayaka]

Thats a wish. But at the moment, there is no indication this kind of wish could come true.

I think in very long time periods. 1000 years? Who knows?

 

[Vinayaka]

The Baha’i tenets only have to do with membership in the Baha’i Faith not membership of humanity. The oneness of humanity is about accepting all human beings as part of one human family.

What would the oneness of humanity imply legally? If it became international law then it would mean all human beings have certain rights which must be provided them. Amongst these rights would be food, shelter, clothing, work, education and medical care.

So the poor would be entitled to free education, free Medicare and a basic living wage so that none go in need. There is enough wealth in the world to make this happen just that what is lacking is the concept that we need to look after all humanity not just our race, religion or nationality. This will require putting the needs of the many above the needs of the few. Many nations have more than enough but some nations struggle to meet daily needs.

So the oneness of humanity is not just about getting along and ending prejudices but also about ensuring every person lives in comfort.

Can you explain why, then, it says one faith? I don't see much of 'for Baha'i only in the writings.

 

[firedragon]

I think in very long time periods. 1000 years? Who knows?

Could be could be. I agree. And it might bounce back another thousand years later. Who knows!!!

Agree.

 

[Vinayaka]

So you are offering that there are Hindu limits to what is truly inclusive?

All this OP is about, is our oneness. I wonder what can be found in the many various Hindu Scriptures about this oneness?

Regards Tony

Your oneness isn't my oneness. Oneness my way isn't oneness at all. In Hinduism the oneness, is an all pervasive one reality called Brahman. It has nothing to do with humanity, but a lot to do with underlying essence of all that exists. Not that you ever asked what I thought. That's never part of these discussions. But I do offer it up this once, just so on some rare chance you might see some hint of difference in how we think so differently.

 

[Vinayaka]

Could be could be. I agree. And it might bounce back another thousand years later. Who knows!!!

Agree.

I live on the idea that very little surprises me. Maybe some tragedy will reduce the planet to 100 000 inhabitants, and it starts over.

 

[ChristineM]

God is One
Mankind is One

I see the entire structure of creation shows a cohesive bond is necessary for growth, including the human mindset.

Thus diversity does not negate our essential oneness.

This is the link the following quote is from.

What Would Happen If Everyone Truly Believed Everything Is One?

Beautiful Minds - What Would Happen If Everyone Truly Believed Everything Is One?

Implications of a Belief in Oneness

".......People who believe that everything is fundamentally one differ in crucial ways from those who do not. In general, those who hold a belief in oneness have a more inclusive identity that reflects their sense of connection with other people, nonhuman animals, and aspects of nature that are all thought to be part of the same "one thing." This has some rather broad implications.

First, this finding is relevant to our current fractured political landscape. It is very interesting that those who reported a greater belief in oneness were also more likely to regard other people like members of their own group and to identify with all of humanity. There is an abundance of identity politics these days, with people believing that their own ideology is the best one, and a belief that those who disagree with one's own ideology are evil or somehow less than human....."

Is oneness compatible with Science?
Is oneness compatible with Religion?
Is oneness compatible with Humanity?

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Regards Tony

All sounds a bit Borg to me.

 

[firedragon]

I live on the idea that very little surprises me. Maybe some tragedy will reduce the planet to 100 000 inhabitants, and it starts over.

Maybe's can be anything Vinayaka.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Your oneness isn't my oneness. Oneness my way isn't oneness at all. In Hinduism the oneness, is an all pervasive one reality called Brahman. It has nothing to do with humanity, but a lot to do with underlying essence of all that exists. Not that you ever asked what I thought. That's never part of these discussions. But I do offer it up this once, just so on some rare chance you might see some hint of difference in how we think so differently.

I have attempted to reconcile across faiths with you many times, that the same concepts are shared in different frames of references.

Please consider you can offer your concept of oneness so we could discuss, as I see may faiths share the concepts.

Thus the concept of One God as the pervasive, infinite, eternal truth, consciousness and bliss, which does not change, yet is the cause of all changes is I see a fundamental truth.

I see humanity can find unity in that consciousness when we realise that the diversity is just a part of, or emanation of the eternal truth.

The Messengers to me are the given cause of Change and the only way to obtaining the state of Moksha.

Personally I see we have more in common than differences. We just have the same goal seen in a different way.

Regards Tony

 

[TransmutingSoul]

All sounds a bit Borg to me.

More like the Galactic Republic.
.
Regards Tony

 

[ChristineM]

More like the Galactic Republic.
.
Regards Tony

So god would be elected by the public?

 

[TransmutingSoul]

So god would be elected by the public?

No the fruits of the oneness of humanity would be harvested in such a system.

Regards Tony

 

[ChristineM]

No the fruits of the oneness of humanity would be harvested in such a system.

Regards Tony

Ahh so not a republic then but a dictatorship based on your belief.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Ahh so not a republic then but a dictatorship based on your belief.

No that is not what is offered when humanity embraces its oneness, it will be a unity in our diversity, most likely an improved democratic system.

All the best ChristineM, Regards Tony

 

[ChristineM]

No that is not what is offered when humanity embraces its oneness, it will be a unity in our diversity, most likely an improved democratic system.

All the best ChristineM, Regards Tony

And if people don't want oneness to your wish but want to go their own way as they want. I don't see oneness as a great idea, in fact it's more a hive thing, hence my first post. Sure it will bring unity but at what cost? Individualism, Innovation, freedom of thought, freedom of will. No, thats not the life for me