Nymphs
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Same here. Haha!
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Opponents of Polyamory -- Present Your Arguments
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Same here. Haha!
Nymphs
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dust1n
Zindīq
I'm just going to go out on a limb here, but it seems to me as if there is no actual prescription to how anyone should go about relationships. The best one can do is try to manufacture one from experiences. And obviously, everyone has vastly different experiences with relationships, and how people act on experiences is just as diverse. And the end of the day, we are all going to invent the self-narrative to justify/make sense/appease our emotions and actions, despite the fact we very likely can not even be trusted to adequately know ourselves to be certain how some present situation will be different in the future.
No, not silly you. He was. None of his posts were personally advocating the kind of dictatorship he's accusing us of.
I'm pointing out that any argument which is against any kind of human rights movement, whether feminism, racial equality, etc. specifically on the grounds of such movements being akin to a dictatorship is a self-contradicting argument, because such movements are trying to rise up against something that amounts to cultural dictatorship. In hindsight, however, the method by which I chose to illustrate that was pretty juvenile.
I disagree. Humans are a tribal species, which means we desire acceptance among multiple people, not just one person.
The envy for a dual-romantic relationship is a cultural one.
Nymphs
Well-Known Member
And Cynthia is imagining something that isn't there. I'm pretty sure that remark is aimed at me. I don't imagine polyamorous people are any better than monogamous people.
Doesn't happen in a healthy polyamorous relationship any more than any other multi-person family.
Condoms are only necessary if two conditions are met(either/or):
1. The people involved have not been tested for SDIs.
2. The women involved don't want to/are unready to have children (whether other birth-control methods are present.)
If everyone's been tested for STIs, there's no risk of that. I'd think that would be self-evident, especially in closed polyamorous relationships. In the case of more children, well, there's that old saying that it takes a village to raise a child. More people = more help around the house and in raising the children. Any healthy relationship would involve absolutely no secrets, and so if no children are desired, everyone would be on the same page with that, and use birth control.
Besides, like I keep saying, not all polyamorous relationships involve sex. Polyamory is more about the relationship, with any present sex existing to serve that relationship rather than for its own sake, just like in any healthy committed relationship. I'd also think that was self-evident. (Though I guess it's naive of me to think it self-evident, considering the high breakup/divorce rates.)
Nymphs
Well-Known Member
Thank you. I am asking for real arguments -- so far, I've only gotten opinions not backed up by anything.
No they don't.
I thought Sunstone brought up a good point about polygamy and it's potential social breakdowns.
Nymphs
Well-Known Member
So far, the only "support" I've seen is just an appeal to tradition, which is logically fallacious, since traditions aren't inherently good things to follow or hold on to. If a two-thousand year old tradition turns out to cause more harm than good in a given cultural environment, it should be discarded. It would remain true even if the tradition goes back ten-thousand years.
Drolefille
PolyPanGeekGirl
Sorry but more=more risks.
It is that simple.
That is my stance and until the few here can provide evidence that all those in multiple relationships wear condoms all the time and 110% trust has never been broken, they have not proved a thing in this thread.
Its not how I am being treated, it's the fact that some here have tried to completely turn this around instead of actually discussing it openly and honestly.
As you are attempting to do with me now.
I am not playing victim by calling out those who are playing victim.
I posted scientific evidence of safer sex practices among consensually non-monogamous people. Do you want to address it or ignore it?
I have been discussing the topic of polyamory, I just refuse to get sidelined down your STI train.
I didn't say you were playing victim, I just find your claims ironic.
Alceste
Vagabond
Nah, it's me. It really got her panties in a twist when I mentioned the fact that most secular poly relationships involve a large amount of communication that monogamous relationships generally don't require, since they tend to conform to cultural expectations few monogamous couples need to express out loud.
Alceste
Vagabond
Sans Uncle Sunstone's posts...of course he is right.
Uncle Sunstone is always right. Too bad he left the thread - he's missing all the flattery.
Nymphs
Well-Known Member