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Optimistic eternal reincarnation?
- Thread starter Cosmos-intérieur
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ajay0
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Perpetual reincarnation would make no sense, since it is considered equivalent to death itself by eastern spiritual masters. One keeps returning to Samsara or the world, gets caught in its fickle pleasures and consequent pains, and lives in constant psychological bondage and suffering, missing the joy and bliss of the Self or Buddha nature within oneself.
Perpetual reincarnation is beneficial only if one has wisdom and a disciplined mind to go with it from birth or childhood/youth itself One who enjoys his or her own intrinsic nature can enjoy the pleasures of the world without fear of suffering and bondage,and can have a proper relation with everyone and everything else.
Cosmos-intérieur
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if it's the perpetual return of the same yes it's hell
we can, however, imagine a perpetually ascending cycle.
This is the belief of some Western spiritualists.
we can, however, imagine a perpetually ascending cycle.
This is the belief of some Western spiritualists.
ajay0
Well-Known Member
The religion of Tenrikyo may be silent on enlightenment or Nirvana , but it does emphasize mindfulness and virtuous conduct for attaining the Joyous life as Tenrikyo puts it. (Mindfulness and virtuous conduct is emphasized in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism and Sufism for eliminating karma and attaining enlightenment.)
The 'Joyous life' is characterized by intrinsic joy and bliss, which are the traits of the enlightened state as well.
The 'Joyous life' is characterized by intrinsic joy and bliss, which are the traits of the enlightened state as well.
Cosmos-intérieur
Member
yes once again it's not moksha that bothers me.
I just find the idea that some people have of casting the individual into an undifferentiated background to be gloomy.
if it is real indeed I prefer the sufferings of samsara.
I think, however, that another soteriology would be possible, where evolution is constant.
for example Sri Aurobindo with his dynamic vision of Brahman experienced that Nirvana is not the end but an intermediate state between two evolutions.
I just find the idea that some people have of casting the individual into an undifferentiated background to be gloomy.
if it is real indeed I prefer the sufferings of samsara.
I think, however, that another soteriology would be possible, where evolution is constant.
for example Sri Aurobindo with his dynamic vision of Brahman experienced that Nirvana is not the end but an intermediate state between two evolutions.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
That is the point, after blending into Brahman, there is no apparent duality as your mind presently experiences reality, the personal I that thinks about blending into Brahman or not blending into Brahman no longer exists.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think rebirth is endless but reincarnation is total bullocks, although I'll admit it's on the right track more than other religions as far as continuation goes.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That's the difference because in my view there is no mind, but what does intrigue me is the life force itself as new living beings spring into material existence once conditions are right for it and live out their own existence until it's time to die again.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
That is you who is claiming there is no mind, how do you know? Or better still, how did you create your own mind?