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Orban meets Putin for peace talks

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Not playing your game.
You liberals trot out that quote of proof
of the MIC conspiracy regularly. You
just did. Now you claim it's not a claim.
Stupid.

It's just suggesting a possibility of something that could happen if we're not careful. It's not a direct accusation to be used in a court case against someone, but more a general comment and a warning that the public should be wary and not necessarily believe everything they hear from government. You think that's some sort of "game"?

You're claiming that there is a claim, yet you yourself offer no evidence, nor are you willing to state, exactly, what claim you're referring to when you say "there is no evidence."

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That's just another kind of game. And I'm not playing that game either.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
These are the Italian comments from Italians below a Zelensky video.

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Eddi

Wesleyan Pantheist
Premium Member
Business. So you are confessing that the USA just want to conquer Russia to seize all its resources and fuels?
I think we've taken a detour into the land of fantasy here....

Although such a ridiculous and paranoid excuse for starting a war may work on semi-literate Russian peasants who do and think whatever their tsar tells them to it most certainly doesn't elsewhere

It seems as though you have forgotten that you are talking to intelligent, educated and informed people here......

You are only making yourself look like a "useful idiot"
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Business. So you are confessing that the USA just want to conquer Russia to seize all its resources and fuels?

Wait and see.

The U.S. doesn't really conquer countries that way anymore. No one does, not even Russia - despite Western fears to the contrary. They don't call it "conquest" or even "colonialism" anymore. Now, they call it "nation-building." Just like the U.S. tried to do in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I don't think they're after the resources on behalf of the USA or its people. The American people really get nothing out of the "spoils of war," so they have no real practical reason for supporting it.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The U.S. doesn't really conquer countries that way anymore. No one does, not even Russia - despite Western fears to the contrary. They don't call it "conquest" or even "colonialism" anymore. Now, they call it "nation-building." Just like the U.S. tried to do in Afghanistan and Iraq.
We call it conquest. :)
I don't think they're after the resources on behalf of the USA or its people.
Of course not. It's those warmongering élites.
The American people really get nothing out of the "spoils of war," so they have no real practical reason for supporting it.
Exactly.
 

Eddi

Wesleyan Pantheist
Premium Member
This thread has taught me a valuable lesson:

Resisting aggression = warmongering!

Who'd have thought!!
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Orban no doubt will have good dialogue with Putin... but to expect peace to come from that is just heavy delusion.

This is just two wannabe dictators exchanging mutual pleasantries. Nothing worthwhile will come from that.
 
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Stevicus

Veteran Member
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Premium Member
We call it conquest. :)

Yes, but if they're allowed to have their own sovereign, democratically-elected government under their own flag, then it presents the image that they're independent and free. Whether or not that's really the case is a different matter. All that matters is what's on paper, enough to satisfy the legal beagles who make these decisions as to what is right and what is wrong.

Of course not. It's those warmongering élites.

Exactly.

I think the real underlying problem, at least looking at it from the standpoint of the American people, is the psychological effect it has on the masses. Think of it, ever since the end of WW2, the US was in a Cold War where there was always some level of military activity operating around the world. The U.S. public was in a Red Scare kind of mood - and while it subsided to some degree, it never really entirely went away. A similar warlike, quasi-fascist mentality has descended in the "war on drugs." And even though the Cold War ended, the same basic militaristic, interventionist policies persisted. Then, with 9/11 hitting us, the "war on terrorism" went into full swing, leading us to where we are now.

And with Cold War II starting up again with Russia and China, the US is lining up its allies and preparing - just in case.

We wonder why the people elect warmongers and why America seems to be drifting towards fascism. We've been on this course for a very long time now. By and large, the public has been already conditioned towards that way of thinking.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Orban is the President of the European Council right now.
A real man in a Europe filled with male politicians who are really disappointing.

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This image has irritated the elitist cabal of warmongers overseas (who are on the verge of a stroke) and of course, the EU technocrats.
Who don't represent the European peoples.


Peace will be a matter a time. In Europe peace will triumph and Russia will be considered an ally in the future.
So dear allies overseas: Abandon all hope. Peace will triumph.
Your thirst for war will not be satiated. ;)
That will always be gauged by the current activities on the battlefields.
 
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