Audie
Veteran Member
But they are trying to deny theists their faith in favor of their own. It's not any different.
If I were to stand back and look at the tone of my posts in general I'd say they may have a tone of authoritativeness in how I put things. And as part of that I probably show less tolerance for nonsense. That's the atheist inside of me, all rational, knowledgeable, articulate, etc. That can seem "cold" perhaps to some.
BS. I did not start the attack. You blurted out that my thoughts were about me "massaging my ego". That is a personal insult and attack. I did no such thing to you anywhere in what I have posted. I have no interest in attacking you and your personal motives whatever those might be. I couldn't know. That is just simply an ad hominem attack, and anyone who does that shows the world they don't hold any winning cards left in their hand. I did not attack you once, even after you attacked me. I did however report that, as I'm tired of you doing this with me. It's not the first time. But I trust it will be the last.
I don't know the context of this right now. If I said something like that, I'm trying to reframe it in a way that fits another way of looking at it, putting a different face on it than the one you may have been hoping will make your case for you. I don't know for sure here.
I am extremely knowledgeable about the ego. I understand the way it works, the stages of development it goes through, it's role in our basic functioning, and all that. I would surmise with some confidence, I probably know more about it as a subject of understanding than you do.
However, you saying me "massaging my ego", is not talking about any of that. That's a particular insulting phrase that anyone says to another when they want to dismiss what they are saying, by making it personal about them. You may as well say I'm just "jerking off" my ego. It's the exact same thing and meaning. I'm not stupid, and neither is everyone else.
Everything I said there was not about your argument. It was about your behavior in attacking me instead of presenting arguments. I was telling you how such tactics cannot and will not fly by me, and then someone turning around and attempting to claim it was me doing it? I'm suspecting a pattern of something I'm familiar with known as Gaslighting someone. It won't work with me.
Yeah, I don't know what you mean. Correct. It was not "hyperbole", which is an exaggeration. It was a metaphor. It's a common metaphor with a poker reference, "He's not holding many cards in his hand". It's commonly applied to debates where one person says to the other, "I can tell by the style of debate here, restorting to personal attacks instead of arguments, that you don't have many cards (of point count) in your hand". It's saying they are acting that way because they don't have any arguments left.
If you mean to say me pointing out that I don't believe you really can support your arguments as me "attempting to poison your ego", I honestly don't know what to say to that. I would hope you would instead show some integrity and admit you don't have good arguments, instead of trying to make it sounds like I'm trying to "poison" your self worth. Perhaps you'd do better avoiding online discussions if you think that's what others are trying to do to you? That would be something only you would be doing to yourself.
You started with a personal attack, and I responded to that behavior, when you denied it, as you are now. You then belittle that as me having a "diatribe", etc. All of that is what one sees in gaslighting behaviors, I'm seeing for myself.
Anyway, I'm not going to say anymore to this if you're not going to accept responsibility. I don't wish to waste my time with someone who habitually sinks to personal attacks, and turns all subsequent discussion away from the topic to talk about how I have victimized them. Again, avoiding the topic through introducing personal attack to begin with. Mission accomplished.
I am not attacking you personally, when I disagree with your thinking on these subjects. Saying to me I am just "massaging my ego" is attacking me personally.
You kids quit fighting!