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Orphanage or gay parents

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connermt

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nnmartin said:
if the abuse was serious, then yes - a home or foster care would be better for the child.
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So if the abuse isn't serious, they should stay because, as you put it, biology trumps orientation (and what type of abuse isn't serious?).
You are swaying like a reed in the wind. Why is that?
 
Quiddity

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
Reverend Rick said:
So it is OK for two men to raise a child so long as they are related? A father and an uncle or grandparent is fine?

What if the man who was the father became gay after his wife died?

Would it be OK for the child to be raised in the home then?

Would the child be better off in an orphanage?
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I was raised by a gay man and my mom so I guess I have a bit to say about this. The bad news is that it doesn't gurantee them to be liberal...:D...or even pro-choice, or any of that. I could probably write a book on my experience alone. As unpopular as it may be, I feel strongly that a mother and father is needed in a home. I can't convince anyone of this anymore then they can convince me that......all you need is love....The family unit is complicated and even a mediocre father brings things that my gay guardian simply couldn't. However, it's hard to say an orphanage is better then being in a home with two men. I just can't get myself to personally say that. There was much love and care that came from the man that helped raise me and I can't ever take that away from him. It's hard for me to talk about this. Probably why I stay away from this topic.
 
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connermt

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Quiddity said:
I was raised by a gay man and my mom so I guess I have a bit to say about this. The bad news is that it doesn't gurantee them to be liberal...:D...or even pro-choice, or any of that. I could probably write a book on my experience alone. As unpopular as it may be, I feel strongly that a mother and father is needed in a home. I can't convince anyone of this anymore then they can convince me that......all you need is love....The family unit is complicated and even a mediocre father brings things that my gay guardian simply couldn't. However, it's hard to say an orphanage is better then being in a home with two men. I just can't get myself to personally say that. There was much love and care that came from the man that helped raise me and I can't ever take that away from him. It's hard for me to talk about this. Probably why I stay away from this topic.
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It's good to hear from someone with direct experience. Most anyone could point to areas of their lives that could have been better/been done differently/etc.
But I'm glad things worked out for you as they did. Again, thanks for the input on the subject!
 
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connermt

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It seems that there is a "perfect" arrangement for raising a child. But in this world, how many "perfect" scenarios are there really?
So you have to deal with what we have. That's why in some families, for example, children are removed from their home and placed in the custody of other people (family members or not).
Just as imporant, the OP's slant on this is obviously not "pro children" but "anti-gay". Otherswise, the thread would have been, as least, titled differently.
 
work in progress

work in progress

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Falvlun said:
As long as the two people are functionally able to love each other and raise a child, I don't see how the cause, reason, or purpose of homosexuality is relevant to marriage or adoption.
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I think this issue illustrates the differences between rule-based morality and results-based morality more clearly than just about anything else out there. For a utilitarian, or anyone who expects consequences of actions to be the main determinant of what's good and what's bad, vs. those Santorum-types, who just follow a set of rules regardless of the consequences, the differences couldn't come in any more stark relief!

I haven't seen anything indicating that there is, or can be any possible harm to children growing up in same-sex households, and the religious conservatives are totally tone deaf to these arguments because all they can see is a violation of the rules!
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

Back to my username
Dirty Penguin said:
Personally I don't see the big deal. It's not like there aren't already gay parents out there. Her's some food for thought. I love this family and have loved their videos.

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Ask A Gay Family EP 10 Adoption VS Surrogacy? - YouTube
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Actually, it was one of their videos that gave me the idea for this thread. It was part 2 of adoption I think, were they say how there are hundreds and hundreds of files of kids that still need a home and don´t have a suitable one.

It made me wonder how can anyone deny love to them because of some stupid dogma.

Love is MORE IMPORTANT than dogma for crying out loud.
 
Dirty Penguin

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Me Myself said:
Actually, it was one of their videos that gave me the idea for this thread. It was part 2 of adoption I think, were they say how there are hundreds and hundreds of files of kids that still need a home and don´t have a suitable one.

It made me wonder how can anyone deny love to them because of some stupid dogma.

Love is MORE IMPORTANT than dogma for crying out loud.
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I agree......
 
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