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Others can't see God exactly as you do.

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
every god is different because it's something different than self. if it's something intrinsic and other as self, then it's seen in self, love the lord thy god, and recognized in other as self, then love thy neighbor god/self.


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A god spot mri, looks pretty self to me
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Tho the religious use it to slam the door
against such inroads.

" Either Noahs ark was real or Jesus
was liar."
Yes, some theists close the door on non-believers to shut them out, only to realize they are now locked in a prison.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
But is your view and understanding the "right one" for everyone else? Do they not understand the same truth, just from a different P.O.V ?
love isn't about form. so one's belief, pov, is no better than another's. they aren't real. don't have any basis in reality. bunch of ninnies chasing their tails.

so none of them are right because beliefs are a dime a dozen. there is no truth in them. love is a verb. it really exists. it can be found in a myriad number of forms but those are only images of it. love is something that can be seen in self and in other as self. love is creative.


the irony here is that you are pushing a belief as a truth. you've changed your name multiple times and even your religion and you're still a promoter of dualism.

so a truth is something known. a truth isn't something believed, or a pov
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
love isn't about form. so one's belief, pov, is no better than another's. they aren't real. don't have any basis in reality. bunch of ninnies chasing their tails.

so none of them are right because beliefs are a dime a dozen. there is no truth in them. love is a verb. it really exists. it can be found in a myriad number of forms but those are only images of it. love is something that can be seen in self and in other as self. love is creative.


the hypocrisy here is that you are pushing a belief. you've changed your name multiple times and even your religion and you're still a promoter of dualism.

so a truth is something known. a truth isn't something believed, or a pov
You are free to have any opinion about me and my belief. It honestly does not bother me
 

Audie

Veteran Member
love isn't about form. so one's belief, pov, is no better than another's. they aren't real. don't have any basis in reality. bunch of ninnies chasing their tails.

so none of them are right because beliefs are a dime a dozen. there is no truth in them. love is a verb. it really exists. it can be found in a myriad number of forms but those are only images of it. love is something that can be seen in self and in other as self. love is creative.


the irony here is that you are pushing a belief as a truth. you've changed your name multiple times and even your religion and you're still a promoter of dualism.

so a truth is something known. a truth isn't something believed, or a pov

Ya arent such a " fool" after all
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
When someone ask, tell me about the God you believe in...and you do.

They are not going to see God the way you do. Because telling about a God, is not the same as having an understanding by the one who listen to you.

They listen to you, then they have to study it for them selves to gain the wisdom you have gained.

You can't understand God without actively seeking God first.

This is why I don't believe in a God.
God, the claimed creator of the universe ought to be as universally known. Not simply a subjective experience, imo.

The God you create for yourself is easy to know. To know the God created by another is not so easy.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
This is why I don't believe in a God.
God, the claimed creator of the universe ought to be as universally known. Not simply a subjective experience, imo.

The God you create for yourself is easy to know. To know the God created by another is not so easy.
That is a valid reason :)
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Yes. But it's still an emotion, you proved that with your mri
not just an emotion christine. it's bigger than that. it's what drives evolution in the physical world. its what drives your relationships that you are so passionate about
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
really? now you're trying to reassure me that the statement love is necessary for physical and mental well being is an opinion?


that is so big of your ego
I have no need to reasure you of anything at all, you have your belief, your love.
My belief may be different than yours, but it does not mean any of us are wrong. Its just different understanding and P.O.V.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
When someone ask, tell me about the God you believe in...and you do.

They are not going to see God the way you do. Because telling about a God, is not the same as having an understanding by the one who listen to you.

They listen to you, then they have to study it for them selves to gain the wisdom you have gained.

You can't understand God without actively seeking God first.

I have sought God. That's one reason I had to depart from holy books. I esteemed God to be all virtue and nothing vice. Then I looked for evidence of omniscient power, knowledge, and presence, and care. I did not find that to be any reality that I ever experienced. God became smaller and smaller to the point of non existence.

I discovered moral perfection in the virtues.
I discovered that nature has intelligent creative power.

I discovered that nature is indifferent to moral values.
I discovered that nature is not even close to being perfectly designed.

I've considered that the universe is not fundamental reality.
I've considered that there is an eternal, intelligent source reality.

Some have considered the law of karma, but horrific tragedy happens to good people. So I had to digress from that notion.

The physical constraints on reality being purely natural occuring is overwhelmingly evident. Supernatural events have never been witnessed.

I have to consider that the universe is mostly hostile to life. And there is no harmony in the wild life nature of living creatures.

I have no reason to believe that this Earth is hell, or purgatory. God seems to throw away perfectly decent people if that were the case.

My notions of God are mostly defeated.

All I have after that is a natural based spirituality.

If I thought God has put us all down on Earth for very good reasons, if I thought that God somehow needs us to be on our own in a world separate from God, then perhaps God would become alive again.

Then I think that as dark and vast the void of space is, that God does not want to be recognized.

So I consider that God is hidden. I consider that for life to grow at all then it must be left entirely on its own separate from the care of omniscient love. I consider that if everyone was always in the loving care of an omniscient God then perhaps we would all be like spoiled children.

So perhaps this life is a gift to the rebellious nature of living organisms. Yet evil and atrocity is a sad fact of life on Earth. It's hard to reconcile God with its existence.

Then I've considered lesser Gods that were vulnerable and not omniscient. Perhaps the war between good and evil has always raged on. Perhaps God or gods are in the midst of this war from far away.

Lastly my faith is spiritual and atheistic. However I'm not anti theist. I catch myself still looking for God.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
I have no need to reasure you of anything at all, you have your belief, your love.
My belief may be different than yours, but it does not mean any of us are wrong. Its just different understanding and P.O.V.
you asked a question. i didn't ask you anything. i don't care whatt you believe. when talking about love, i'm talking about research and 1st person experience. truth is something experienced. it isn't something believed or a pov.

10 people can witness an accident and not describe the same exact scenario but that doesn't make it a belief. truth and belief are not synonyms
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
you asked a question. i didn't ask you anything. i don't care whatt you believe. when talking about love, i'm talking about research and 1st person experience. truth is something experienced. it isn't something believed or a pov.

10 people can witness an accident and not describe the same exact scenario but that doesn't make it a belief. truth and belief are not synonyms
Ok
 
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