Pakistan, Facebook and Blasphemy

[icehorse]

Argh! (that's my opinion)

Apparently officials in Pakistan are asking Facebook to help them content that might be blasphemous:

Pakistan asks Facebook to help fight blasphemy - BBC News

As a free speech almost-absolutist I find this sort of attack on free speech to be quite alarming.

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

Argh! (that's my opinion)

Apparently officials in Pakistan are asking Facebook to help them content that might be blasphemous:

Pakistan asks Facebook to help fight blasphemy - BBC News

As a free speech almost-absolutist I find this sort of attack on free speech to be quite alarming.

Alarming but not new. They have been autisticly screeching about it for years now. The idea that any western nation would bend knee to such a demand disgusts me. And anyone in favor of hatespeech laws kind of disgusts me as well. I'm sorry but not all of us are muslims and not all of us are blinded by our faith in a lying warlord to make every criticism of him and his damned cult blasphemous.

 

[columbus]

Apparently officials in Pakistan are asking Facebook to help them content that might be blasphemous:

Argh!
Why do people think that Facebooking is a right? Facebook is a Capitalist concern and Zuckerberg doesn't have a reason to care about the culture of victimhood and entitlement.
Use Facebook or don't, but don't expect them to care about human rights any more than Trump does.
Tom

 

[sovietchild]

Argh! (that's my opinion)

Apparently officials in Pakistan are asking Facebook to help them content that might be blasphemous:

Pakistan asks Facebook to help fight blasphemy - BBC News

As a free speech almost-absolutist I find this sort of attack on free speech to be quite alarming.

Did you know google, youtube and facebook(?) is banned in China?

 

[Debater Slayer]

Alarming but not new. They have been autisticly screeching about it for years now. The idea that any western nation would bend knee to such a demand disgusts me. And anyone in favor of hatespeech laws kind of disgusts me as well. I'm sorry but not all of us are muslims and not all of us are blinded by our faith in a lying warlord to make every criticism of him and his damned cult blasphemous.

And your post is supposedly better than fundamentalist Islamic rhetoric.

This is one of those times when two opposite beliefs can both be horrendously misguided and baseless.

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

And your post is supposedly better than fundamentalist Islamic rhetoric.

This is one of those times when two opposite beliefs can both be horrendously misguided and baseless.

Which part is baseless may I ask?

 

[dust1n]

Alarming but not new. They have been autisticly screeching about it for years now. The idea that any western nation would bend knee to such a demand disgusts me. And anyone in favor of hatespeech laws kind of disgusts me as well. I'm sorry but not all of us are muslims and not all of us are blinded by our faith in a lying warlord to make every criticism of him and his damned cult blasphemous.

"Western Nation"... do you mean "Facebook"?

 

[Father Heathen]

Did you know google, youtube and facebook(?) is banned in China?

That would be china enacting it's own denial of access rather than the businesses enforcing censorship on china's behalf.

 

[Vinayaka]

As a free speech almost-absolutist I find this sort of attack on free speech to be quite alarming.

Not at all. It's Pakistan. That's what they do.

 

[icehorse]

Not at all. It's Pakistan. That's what they do.

This strikes me as Pakistan entering into "the commons" of the internet. That's very different than what they do within their own borders. I also hate ideas like blasphemy "within borders", but I hate it more when it nibbles away at the universal.

 

[Kirran]

Like, Pakistan's laws aren't good, but Facebook's gotta follow them when it's in Pakistan, so I don't really see such a controversy here.

 

[Vinayaka]

Knowing the possible consequences, any Pakistani who used any social media to say anything against the government, or against Islam, would either be incredibly foolish, incredibly brave, or just suicidal.

 

[icehorse]

Like, Pakistan's laws aren't good, but Facebook's gotta follow them when it's in Pakistan, so I don't really see such a controversy here.

My question is this: Can facebook (or anyone) build a perfect wall around their network of users such that there is no boundary crossing in either direction? In other words, if someone outside of Pakistan has a facebook friend in pakistan, could such a rule restrict the outside friend's speech?

 

[Kirran]

My question is this: Can facebook (or anyone) build a perfect wall around their network of users such that there is no boundary crossing in either direction? In other words, if someone outside of Pakistan has a facebook friend in pakistan, could such a rule restrict the outside friend's speech?

I'm not sure really - like, it might be possible to stop the Pakistan-based person from being able to see the other person's. But maybe it's not gonna work like that anyway.

 

[columbus]

Not at all. It's Pakistan. That's what they do.

It is not Pakistan.
It is Muslims.
Muslims who have political power. The ones we are talking about are Pakistani, but they are really Muslim. That's the problem.
Tom

 

[Vinayaka]

It is not Pakistan.
It is Muslims.
Muslims who have political power. The ones we are talking about are Pakistani, but they are really Muslim. That's the problem.
Tom

Yes I know. No democracy, and no freedoms.

 

[Kirran]

Yes I know. No democracy, and no freedoms.

Look at Sadiq Khan, Deniz Zvizdic and Wan Aziza Wan Ismail, out there destroying freedom and democracy.

 

[Vinayaka]

Look at Sadiq Khan, Deniz Zvizdic and Wan Aziza Wan Ismail, out there destroying freedom and democracy.

Fill me in young man.

 

[Kirran]

Fill me in young man.

Well they're all Muslims in politics who endorse freedom and democracy. UK, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Malaysia respectively.

 

[Vinayaka]

Well they're all Muslims in politics who endorse freedom and democracy. UK, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Malaysia respectively.

Thanks.

Malaysia, now that's a tough one. I have friends on the ground. Hinduism Today was once refused at the import office. So it's a slow Islamisation there.