Palestinians under attack

[CMike]

Great. The UN gave the rockets back to Hamas.

Nice

UN agency handed rockets back to Hamas, Israel says | The Times of Israel

 

[beenie]

Hey, ssainhu, how has Ramadan been for you. It's gotta be rough as it slips into July. Just so I don't forget: a very warm and sincere Eid Mubarak to you and yours! :flower:

Hey, Jay, we've been fortunate to have some unseasonably cool weather for a good portion of Ramadan... but I have to admit, I'm eagerly awaiting for the time Ramadan heads back into the winter months.

I am unable to fast for health reasons, but watching my family members fast these long days is definitely trying...

Thank you for the Eid wishes; I'll pass them on to the family.

 

[FearGod]

If you ever get around to wanting a real, lasting peace, then I think you're going to need very much to get past thinking that the existence of some fanatics on the Israeli side are grounds to destroy Israel, as you suggested earlier.

I have to agree with you, but his attitude was annoying even though that many disagree with his words but he never gives up.

 

[Sunstone]

I have to agree with you, but his attitude was annoying even though that many disagree with his words but he never gives up.

Well, as someone once said, "Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity."

 

[Flankerl]

Great. The UN gave the rockets back to Hamas.

Nice

UN agency handed rockets back to Hamas, Israel says | The Times of Israel

Well its UNRWA.

 

[metis]

It is very simple, they are asking for freedom.
Don't you know what is freedom.

Everyone knows that Israel made Gaza an open-air big jail for the Palestinians.

Thats what they were asking for, but Israel refused and invaded Gaza as a reply for their request of freedom.

First of all, even if you rationale was correct, does that somehow legitimize targeting civilians that not only does Hamas do but also brags about and celebrates. Does this also allow them to ignore cease-fire requests that puts even their own civilians at risk without being criticized by some here?

But even your rationale isn't correct as it is not Israel that made Gaza-- the U.N. did. On top of that, there could have been countries there that could have helped with what is a very crowded place, but they refuse to do so. Meanwhile, we Jews have had to move out of various areas, and Israel and many other countries helped us.

Why is it that you focus on Palestinians but seemingly overlook the fact that by law, Jews are not allowed in either the West Bank or Gaza? Why is it that Arabic groups like ISIS have told Christians that they must either convert, pay a heavy tax, leave, or die, and yet I don't see one forum discussing that? Why is it that we have seen in the last couple of years mass slaughter with Muslem on Muslem violence in Syria and Iraq, and yet we see very little condemnation with that? Why is it that Iran fosters more terrorism than any other country in the world by far, and yet we see basically no threads on that? But if Israel defends itself, they are condemned by a chorus here condemning what every country on Earth will do-- defend itself.

 

[FearGod]

Well, as someone once said, "Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity."

You are amazing Suntone.

 

[Sunstone]

You are amazing Suntone.

Thank you. But I can tell you've not been talking to my ex-wives.

 

[columbus]

Well, as someone once said, "Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity."

One huge problem here is that while moderate realists are checking facts, considering options, looking for workable plans, hoping to improve the human situation,


The extremists pull out the lies and weapons and open fire...

And the circle goes around again.

Tom

 

[FearGod]

First of all, even if you rationale was correct, does that somehow legitimize targeting civilians that not only does Hamas do but also brags about and celebrates. Does this also allow them to ignore cease-fire requests that puts even their own civilians at risk without being criticized by some here?

But even your rationale isn't correct as it is not Israel that made Gaza-- the U.N. did. On top of that, there could have been countries there that could have helped with what is a very crowded place, but they refuse to do so. Meanwhile, we Jews have had to move out of various areas, and Israel and many other countries helped us.

Why is it that you focus on Palestinians but seemingly overlook the fact that by law, Jews are not allowed in either the West Bank or Gaza? Why is it that Arabic groups like ISIS have told Christians that they must either convert, pay a heavy tax, leave, or die, and yet I don't see one forum discussing that? Why is it that we have seen in the last couple of years mass slaughter with Muslem on Muslem violence in Syria and Iraq, and yet we see very little condemnation with that? Why is it that Iran fosters more terrorism than any other country in the world by far, and yet we see basically no threads on that? But if Israel defends itself, they are condemned by a chorus here condemning what every country on Earth will do-- defend itself.

Who said that Muslims are with ISIS, they are killing Muslims and no one knows who is supporting them.

Bashar is defended by Russia, you know that Russia is a superpower and then no one can stop Bashar from doing his crimes as Israel do and also protected by another superpower.

Russia, China veto U.N. bid to refer Syria to international court

 

[Godobeyer]

The Israeli army doesn't hide behind it's women and children when it attacks.

Hamas does.

you know what is Gaza ?

Gaza it's not large country , it's city , so it's full of civilians .

let me post this question again :
let's imagine ,a group of Hamas get to reach a jewish city ,in that situation , Israeli army WILL bomb that city which FULL of Jewish civilians ?

That prove that Israeli army are fight the Palestinians by the behave of racism and hate .

 

[Godobeyer]

I second JS's statement, as the above makes not one iota of sense.

Hamas started the conflict many years ago as even their own charter states, and they have repeatedly claimed that they will destroy Israel. I would suggest that your anger should be directed at the entity that has continually used terrorism as a tool, ignoring requests by much of the world to stop their attacks.

nice skip of my question (suppose ) :clap

because Israeli regime break the deal and steal the land of West Bank , and Gaza was seiged for 8 years .

and why Israeli army ignore the requests of the world to stop attacking the civilians in Gaza ?

 

[CMike]

you know what is Gaza ?

Gaza it's not large country , it's city , so it's full of civilians .

let me post this question again :
let's imagine ,a group of Hamas get to reach a jewish city , Israeli army will bomb that city which FULL of Jewish civilians ?

That prove that Israeli army are fight the Palestinians by the behave of racism and hate .

Let's say that Hamas take over a jewish city. They place the civilians around their weapons and in front of themselves as they are doing now.

In the meantime they also put rocket launchers and launching rockets into Tel Aviv.

Any civilian deaths because Israel tries to stop it are on the head of Hamas.

However, what Hamas is doing is much more evil.

They are using their own civilians as human shields.

They deliberately operate from hospitals, UN schools, their own schools, ambulances, etc.

It's one thing that they hate and want to kill all the jews.

However, they are hiding behind their own women and children in order to attack Israeli women and children.

That's about as evil as one gets.

 

[CMike]

nice skip of my question (suppose ) :clap

because Israeli regime break the deal and steal the land of West Bank , and Gaza was seiged for 8 years .

and why Israeli army ignore the requests of the world to stop attacking the civilians in Gaza ?

What deal?

Steal from whom?

Jordan lost judea and samaria in the 1967 war.

The ironic thing is that Egypt lost Sinai. An area bigger than Israel itself and with a lot of oil. However, Sadat came in peace, and he got Sinai back.

The arabs in judea, samaria, and gaza came with suicide vests. That's how it all went down hill.

 

[CMike]

I am trying very hard to have a little balanced opinion on this whole conflict, but statements like these are making it damn near impossible.

I doubt very much you are trying to have a balanced opinion.

 

[CMike]

Well its UNRWA.

Which is under the UN.

 

[CMike]

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and why Israeli army ignore the requests of the world to stop attacking the civilians in Gaza ?

Because the rest of the world hasn't had over 2,000 rockets fired into it's major cities by Hamas.

Also Israel doesn't attack civilians. If civilians are killed it's unintentional by Israel, but it's intentional by Hamas whom deliberately put them in harms way.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I doubt very much you are trying to have a balanced opinion.

Says the one who posted this:

I agree with the statement.

Without the mother and father's whom send their children to Hamas training camps there would be a lot fewer terrorists.

They too are complicit in the terrorism.

Astounding. And your signature says more about your views than anyone can, really.

 

[beenie]

I doubt very much you are trying to have a balanced opinion.

You can doubt all you want, but you will still be wrong. Don't claim to know what you clearly don't.

I challenge you to find one post in my entire history that I have been an apologist for Hamas or any other Islamic organization. Then we'll have a conversation. G'luck.

 

[Godobeyer]

Let's say that Hamas take over a jewish city. They place the civilians around their weapons and in front of themselves as they are doing now.

In the meantime they also put rocket launchers and launching rockets into Tel Aviv.

Any civilian deaths because Israel tries to stop it are on the head of Hamas.

However, what Hamas is doing is much more evil.

They are using their own civilians as human shields.

They deliberately operate from hospitals, UN schools, their own schools, ambulances, etc.

It's one thing that they hate and want to kill all the jews.

However, they are hiding behind their own women and children in order to attack Israeli women and children.

That's about as evil as one gets.

so you skipped to answser my question ( my suppose) for the second time !!!:clap

because YOU and me and Whole the world knows the anwser : Israeli army is racist WILL NEVER bombs his jews civilians , but if they Muslims , it's ok !!!

so
accuatly all the world see and feel the care of jews(Israelis) to the muslims in Gaza .
it's seems Israeli don't hate the arabs in Gaza ...etc , they just bombing them