Palestinians under attack

[CMike]

I am no supporter of Hamas. I am a supporter of the innocent civilians on both sides being harmed by the conflict, and I sincerely wish a resolution we all could live with would come about.

The problem is that the arab side wants the jewish side DEAD.

Until that attitude changes there is no resolution.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If the tunnels discuss in the news are anything more than clever propaganda, I see no truce without the guarantee of their destruction.

 

[CMike]

have you noticed that you are using every bit of info you receive to justify being anti-arab?
you even blame your own citizens to be nuts if they dont serve to the same ideology. that blame is enough if they are minority to cause a neighbourhood pressure. you dont have to kill them for this situation to be dangerous.

They are nuts.

In Israel they do have the freedom to express their opinion, unlike the arab countries.

However, just like America you will have Israelis across the entire political spectrum.

 

[CMike]

during the time of arafat they had most of negotiations but you can see many posts here from supporters of israel's actions, trying to degrade efforts of him through his property.
any authority palestian will try to weild will be considered terrorist or corrupt to keep them away from table in an international arena so that society will get suffocated, some will flee, remaining out of oppresion fall into extremism and more attacks will be justified easily. so hamas is saying dont leave territory and preferring to die under fire untill recognized for table.

I prefer that the Hamas people die too.

 

[FearGod]

It's unfortunate that the "discussion" too often gets sidetracked whereas the central feature gets lost in the shuffle, and that central feature is that Hamas, which is a terrorist organization, has sworn off peace and attacked the civilian population of Israel.

It's also unfortunate here that some justify Hamas' actions, essentially supporting a terrorist organization, while at the same time proclaiming that they somehow occupy the moral high-ground. It is also unfortunate that these same people blame Israel for the death of Palestinian civilians while being so blind as to not recognize the simple fact that it is Hamas that both started this and who refuse any cease fire.

Hamas started this, continues to resist all cease-fire requests, but somehow it's all Israel's fault?

It is very simple, they are asking for freedom.
Don't you know what is freedom.

Everyone knows that Israel made Gaza an open-air big jail for the Palestinians.

Thats what they were asking for, but Israel refused and invaded Gaza as a reply for their request of freedom.

 

[FearGod]

I prefer that the Hamas people die too.

Go to Gaza man

 

[Sunstone]

The problem is that the arab side wants the jewish side DEAD.

Until that attitude changes there is no resolution.

There will be no resolution until the fanatics on both sides of the issue are marginalized and greater reason prevails. I consider the notion that all blames lies with only one side a mark of fanaticism.

 

[beenie]

The problem is that the arab side wants the jewish side DEAD.

Until that attitude changes there is no resolution.

Not all of the Arab side wants the Jewish side dead, just like not all of the Jewish side thinks like you.

You're seeing this completely one-sided, and that's the problem. I'm not.

 

[CMike]

It is very simple, they are asking for freedom.
Don't you know what is freedom.

Everyone knows that Israel made Gaza an open-air big jail for the Palestinians.

Thats what they were asking for, but Israel refused and invaded Gaza as a reply for their request of freedom.

There are no jews in gaza.

However, as far as Israel's security, when their leadership doesn't act like savages, and prove that they aren't trying to kill every jew in Israel, and don't sneak in missiles to kill jews, they would have more feedom.

That's not the case though.

 

[CMike]

Not all of the Arab side wants the Jewish side dead, just like not all of the Jewish side thinks like you.

You're seeing this completely one-sided, and that's the problem. I'm not.

Does it matter?

This was responsed to very well.

:clap:clap

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10204326980673843&set=vb.1209145283&type=2&theater

 

[CMike]

Go to Gaza man

You first.

 

[ShivaFan]

Namaste

The terrorists attacking Israel have a long history of alliance with National Socialists (Nazis). Their hatred of Jews is sickening.

The rocket (SAM) used to take down the domestic Malaysian Airlines flight over the Ukranian state should be a wakeup call to the entire world. The proliferation of dangerous advanced as well as high tech rocket and missile high trajectory systems into the hands of organized murderers is spreading rapidly across the globe. The example of the Malaysian Airlines strike is an example of the most sophisticated high trajectory but this does not make the other systems now prolferating into the hands of organized crime and terrorists any less dangerous.

It doesn't matter if the downing of the Malaysian flight was an accident by the pro-Russian militants after, even with Russian training, overly advanced SAM systems ended up in the hands of amateurs such as these militants. Of course these militants did not purposely shoot down the domestic flight over Eastern Ukraine, likely as was the day prior they launched at a military transprt, but because of their inability to actually operate such advanced systems the missile instead tracked the largest object in the sky which was a domestic passenger plane, now hundreds are dead and we have the militants laughably and tragically trying to cover up their horror before the world.

The Iranian supported Hamas terrorist group launching barrages of rockets at Israel while using hospitals, schools, women and children as human shields and purposely courting Palestinian civilian casualties so that their allies in the media can vent their anti-Semitic bias against Isreal and play their same rancid propaganda numbers game (500 dead Palestinians, "only" 30 Israelis), these Hamas terrorists are also no better than amateurs and it doesn't matter that their rockets and missiles are less advanced than the pro-Russian militants, Hamas is intent on mass murder and genocide and will kill many both purposely and by mistake along the way and it is only a matter of time now before they have the same SAM systems as the pro-Russian militants. Even without such systems they will manage to shoot down a domestic air flight if the airspace over this region of the ME isn't shut down sooner or lster and hunderds more world passengers are destined to die if Hamas isn't stopped.

Some in the media are setting up their own citizens for the sucker punch, take the US Southern border for example. The left wing media which is sympathetic to anyone who hates America and the UK and the West in general, including sympathy and excuses for Islamic terrorists, will play the numbers game on Israel knowing full well how Hamas is to blame for purposely using Palestinians as human shields, to try a straight jacket any defense of Israel.

But it is only a matter of time now before the drug cartels in Mexico start launching rockets into the US while using Mexican civilians, hospitals, schools, neighborhoods and women and children as human sheilds, just as Hamas does, to extract ransome and extortion money from the US and others -- they are already using terrorist tactics in Mexico and elsewhere including car bombings and beheadings and are working with Islamic terrorists besides.

And so how will the US respond? Under the "ground rules" the leftist media is establishing against Israel and this numbers "game", can the US respond back or be held up as a monster as Mexican civilians die as human shields for the terrorist drug cartels? One thing the US doesn't have thanks to the same left wing is an Iron Dome system as does Israel, wwhich Israel implemented thanks to the efforts and development of Ronald Reagan's SDI before it was de-balled in the US by the Democrats.

Iran is going to get the nuclear bomb, and they will use it on Israel. It only takes one or two, and the Jews will face another holocaust. But the Jews are not going to go idle to the gas chambers again, they will not just let their children be ground up into meat once more as the world watches, if they know they are going to die they will strike first and hard even knowing in the end they may all die but better that death while standing than then the holocaust again. Never Again doesn't mean never will they die. It means never again will their people die without fighting. They will strike Iran no matter what if the bomb is coming, it doesn't matter your sentiments.

Om Namah Sivaya

 

[CMike]

There will be no resolution until the fanatics on both sides of the issue are marginalized and greater reason prevails. I consider the notion that all blames lies with only one side a mark of fanaticism.

Israel wants peace.

If Israel totally disarmed today, the arabs would kill all the jews.

If Hamas disarmed today, there would be peace.

 

[Sunstone]

Not all of the Arab side wants the Jewish side dead, just like not all of the Jewish side thinks like you.

You're seeing this completely one-sided, and that's the problem. I'm not.

I suspect that, if the fanatics who see this issue as completely one-sided would just take a vacation, the rest of the people could probably peacefully resolve the issue within a year or two of negotiations.

 

[CMike]

Once again here is a good summary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEKwXsmDXOA

 

[FearGod]

You first.

Don't you want all Hamas to be dead ?
Go there man.

 

[CMike]

Don't you want all Hamas to be dead ?
Go there man.

Somehow I don't think I would add much to what Israel is doing now.

 

[FearGod]

Israel wants peace.

If Israel totally disarmed today, the arabs would kill all the jews.

If Hamas disarmed today, there would be peace.

And thats why Israel expanding their settlements and stealing the Palestinian lands because they wants peace.

 

[Sunstone]

Israel wants peace.

If Israel totally disarmed today, the arabs would kill all the jews.

If Hamas disarmed today, there would be peace.

I believe you're wrong. If Hamas disarmed today -- without a resolution of any of the legitimate grievances of the Palestinians -- another "Hamas" would rise up to step into the void left by the original. Perhaps your simplistic notion that the Palestinians have no legitimate grievances has blinded you to the fact that this issue will not be resolved save by resolving them.

 

[CMike]

Namaste

The terrorists attacking Israel have a long history of alliance with National Socialists (Nazis). Their hatred of Jews is sickening.

The rocket (SAM) used to take down the domestic Malaysian Airlines flight over the Ukranian state should be a wakeup call to the entire world. The proliferation of dangerous advanced as well as high tech rocket and missile high trajectory systems into the hands of organized murderers is spreading rapidly across the globe. The example of the Malaysian Airlines strike is an example of the most sophisticated high trajectory but this does not make the other systems now prolferating into the hands of organized crime and terrorists any less dangerous.

It doesn't matter if the downing of the Malaysian flight was an accident by the pro-Russian militants after, even with Russian training, overly advanced SAM systems ended up in the hands of amateurs such as these militants. Of course these militants did not purposely shoot down the domestic flight over Eastern Ukraine, likely as was the day prior they launched at a military transprt, but because of their inability to actually operate such advanced systems the missile instead tracked the largest object in the sky which was a domestic passenger plane, now hundreds are dead and we have the militants laughably and tragically trying to cover up their horror before the world.

The Iranian supported Hamas terrorist group launching barrages of rockets at Israel while using hospitals, schools, women and children as human shields and purposely courting Palestinian civilian casualties so that their allies in the media can vent their anti-Semitic bias against Isreal and play their same rancid propaganda numbers game (500 dead Palestinians, "only" 30 Israelis), these Hamas terrorists are also no better than amateurs and it doesn't matter that their rockets and missiles are less advanced than the pro-Russian militants, Hamas is intent on mass murder and genocide and will kill many both purposely and by mistake along the way and it is only a matter of time now before they have the same SAM systems as the pro-Russian militants. Even without such systems they will manage to shoot down a domestic air flight if the airspace over this region of the ME isn't shut down sooner or lster and hunderds more world passengers are destined to die if Hamas isn't stopped.

Some in the media are setting up their own citizens for the sucker punch, take the US Southern border for example. The left wing media which is sympathetic to anyone who hates America and the UK and the West in general, including sympathy and excuses for Islamic terrorists, will play the numbers game on Israel knowing full well how Hamas is to blame for purposely using Palestinians as human shields, to try a straight jacket any defense of Israel.

But it is only a matter of time now before the drug cartels in Mexico start launching rockets into the US while using Mexican civilians, hospitals, schools, neighborhoods and women and children as human sheilds, just as Hamas does, to extract ransome and extortion money from the US and others -- they are already using terrorist tactics in Mexico and elsewhere including car bombings and beheadings and are working with Islamic terrorists besides.

And so how will the US respond? Under the "ground rules" the leftist media is establishing against Israel and this numbers "game", can the US respond back or be held up as a monster as Mexican civilians die as human shields for the terrorist drug cartels? One thing the US doesn't have thanks to the same left wing is an Iron Dome system as does Israel, wwhich Israel implemented thanks to the efforts and development of Ronald Reagan's SDI before it was de-balled in the US by the Democrats.

Iran is going to get the nuclear bomb, and they will use it on Israel. It only takes one or two, and the Jews will face another holocaust. But the Jews are not going to go idle to the gas chambers again, they will not just let their children be ground up into meat once more as the world watches, if they know they are going to die they will strike first and hard even knowing in the end they may all die but better that death while standing than then the holocaust again. Never Again doesn't mean never will they die. It means never again will their people die without fighting. They will strike Iran no matter what if the bomb is coming, it doesn't matter your sentiments.

Om Namah Sivaya

Well said.

It's amazing to me that Hamas intentionally uses hospitals, ambulances, schools, mosques, and civilian homes to attack from, and as usual the world blame Israel when it responds to Hamas shooting almost 2,000 rockets into it's cities.

This is one crazed f*&& up world when that's the case.