Palestinians under attack

[CMike]

Yeah, nice try... the article gives link to the statement ...

Also, Haaretz clearly mentions the TV program where he stated it ...

"The program “Hakol Diburim” (“It’s All Talk”) was broadcast on July 1" ...
Israeli professor's 'rape as terror deterrent' statement draws ire - National Israel News | Haaretz

So let's hear the audio.

Haaretz is a left wing Israeli newspaper.

Being a democracy there is freedom of the media so anyone can right anything.

Even assuming it's true, which I don't, so what?

This person doesn't represent the government. It's his own opinion.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

The guy's a schmuck and his statement has been addressed/ Therefore?

 

[loverOfTruth]

So let's hear the audio.

Haaretz is a left wing Israeli newspaper.

Being a democracy there is freedom of the media so anyone can right anything.

Even assuming it's true, which I don't, so what?

This person doesn't represent the government. It's his own opinion.

Are you kidding me ? Your character is really being exposed....you should stop.

I wasn't even trying to show that guy represent the Israeli government...only that there are such hate filled Israelis and Israeli supporters while stupid people claim that Palestinians have more hatred in them .... but now I will show you one more and one who is associated with the Israeli government (a member of the Israeli parliament).There's no end to pure evil hatred from Israelis...so Golda Myer, her comment and those who supports her comment are pure hypocrites.

Israeli lawmaker, Ayelet Shaked, of the ultra-nationalist Jewish Home party call for genocide - and it gets thousands of Facebook likes (I wonder from who).
She called for the slaughter of Palestinian mothers who give birth to "little snakes : "They have to die and their houses should be demolished so that they cannot bear any more terrorists," Shaked said, adding, "They are all our enemies and their blood should be on our hands. This also applies to the mothers of the dead terrorists."

and ...

"Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there."

Here's the actual post which you can read yourself : https://www.facebook.com/ayelet.benshaul.shaked/posts/596568183794945

What is the difference between this mentality and Hitler's?

 

[CMike]

Are you kidding me ? Your character is really being exposed....you should stop.

I wasn't even trying to show that guy represent the Israeli government...only that there are such hate filled Israelis and Israeli supporters while stupid people claim that Palestinians have more hatred in them .... but now I will show you one more and one who is associated with the Israeli government (a member of the Israeli parliament).There's no end to pure evil hatred from Israelis...so Golda Myer, her comment and those who supports her comment are pure hypocrites.

Israeli lawmaker, Ayelet Shaked, of the ultra-nationalist Jewish Home party call for genocide - and it gets thousands of Facebook likes (I wonder from who).
She called for the slaughter of Palestinian mothers who give birth to "little snakes : "They have to die and their houses should be demolished so that they cannot bear any more terrorists," Shaked said, adding, "They are all our enemies and their blood should be on our hands. This also applies to the mothers of the dead terrorists."

and ...

"Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there."

Here's the actual post which you can read yourself : https://www.facebook.com/ayelet.benshaul.shaked/posts/596568183794945

What is the difference between this mentality and Hitler's?

I agree with the statement.

Without the mother and father's whom send their children to Hamas training camps there would be a lot fewer terrorists.

They too are complicit in the terrorism.

 

[loverOfTruth]

I agree with the statement.

Without the mother and father's whom send their children to Hamas training camps there would be a lot fewer terrorists.

They too are complicit in the terrorism.

I presume you are a big fan of Hitler then...nothing more to say.

 

[beenie]

I agree with the statement.

Without the mother and father's whom send their children to Hamas training camps there would be a lot fewer terrorists.

They too are complicit in the terrorism.

I am trying very hard to have a little balanced opinion on this whole conflict, but statements like these are making it damn near impossible.

 

[ametist]

There are jewish nuts as well.

Israel is a democracy. Therefore, there are extreme leftists as well. Israel doesn't kill them like they do in arab countries.

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have you noticed that you are using every bit of info you receive to justify being anti-arab?
you even blame your own citizens to be nuts if they dont serve to the same ideology. that blame is enough if they are minority to cause a neighbourhood pressure. you dont have to kill them for this situation to be dangerous.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I agree with the statement.

Without the mother and father's whom send their children to Hamas training camps there would be a lot fewer terrorists.

They too are complicit in the terrorism.

I am trying very hard to have a little balanced opinion on this whole conflict, but statements like these are making it damn near impossible.

I typically do not see his comments, having put him on my ignore list precisely because of this type of misogynous bigotry. I have no words to adequately describe what I think of his contributions and, should I find such words, voicing them would only serve to get me banned.

I do, however, apologize for the ugliness. It is vary much a central part of the problem and, as such, bares bloody culpability.

 

[metis]

It's unfortunate that the "discussion" too often gets sidetracked whereas the central feature gets lost in the shuffle, and that central feature is that Hamas, which is a terrorist organization, has sworn off peace and attacked the civilian population of Israel.

It's also unfortunate here that some justify Hamas' actions, essentially supporting a terrorist organization, while at the same time proclaiming that they somehow occupy the moral high-ground. It is also unfortunate that these same people blame Israel for the death of Palestinian civilians while being so blind as to not recognize the simple fact that it is Hamas that both started this and who refuse any cease fire.

Hamas started this, continues to resist all cease-fire requests, but somehow it's all Israel's fault?

 

[beenie]

I typically do not see his comments, having put him on my ignore list precisely because of this type of misogynous bigotry. I have no words to adequately describe what I think of his contributions and, should I find such words, voicing them would only serve to get me banned.

I do, however, apologize for the ugliness. It is vary much a central part of the problem and, as such, bares bloody culpability.

:flower:

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

It's unfortunate that the "discussion" too often gets sidetracked whereas the central feature gets lost in the shuffle, and that central feature is that Hamas, which is a terrorist organization, has sworn off peace and attacked the civilian population of Israel.

It's also unfortunate here that some justify Hamas' actions, essentially supporting a terrorist organization, while at the same time proclaiming that they somehow occupy the moral high-ground. It is also unfortunate that these same people blame Israel for the death of Palestinian civilians while being so blind as to not recognize the simple fact that it is Hamas that both started this and who refuses any cease fire.

Hamas started this, continues to resist all cease-fire requests, but somehow it's all Israel's fault? Seems like some totally flunked Logic 101.

It is also unfortunate, if not tragic, that you would leave CMike's ugly comments unchallenged.

 

[beenie]

It's unfortunate that the "discussion" too often gets sidetracked whereas the central feature gets lost in the shuffle, and that central feature is that Hamas, which is a terrorist organization, has sworn off peace and attacked the civilian population of Israel.

It's also unfortunate here that some justify Hamas' actions, essentially supporting a terrorist organization, while at the same time proclaiming that they somehow occupy the moral high-ground. It is also unfortunate that these same people blame Israel for the death of Palestinian civilians while being so blind as to not recognize the simple fact that it is Hamas that both started this and who refuses any cease fire.

Hamas started this, continues to resist all cease-fire requests, but somehow it's all Israel's fault? Seems like some totally flunked Logic 101.

I am no supporter of Hamas. I am a supporter of the innocent civilians on both sides being harmed by the conflict, and I sincerely wish a resolution we all could live with would come about.

 

[metis]

It is also unfortunate, if not tragic, that you would leave CMike's ugly comments unchallenged.

I do not respond to all comments made by him or anyone else. If I tried, there wouldn't been enough time in a day to do as such. I think each of us can remember times when we posted something that could be viewed as over-the-top, and CMike, you, and I are no exceptions to this rule.

 

[metis]

I am no supporter of Hamas. I am a supporter of the innocent civilians on both sides being harmed by the conflict, and I sincerely wish a resolution we all could live with would come about.

I am absolutely 100% with you on this, and I mean it.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I do not respond to all comments made by him or anyone else. If I tried, there wouldn't been enough time in a day to do as such. I think each of us can remember times when we posted something that could be viewed as over-the-top, and CMike, you, and I are no exceptions to this rule.

If …

Without the mother and father's whom send their children to Hamas training camps there would be a lot fewer terrorists.

… is your standard for "over-the-top," I am definitely an exception.

 

[Sunstone]

I am no supporter of Hamas. I am a supporter of the innocent civilians on both sides being harmed by the conflict, and I sincerely wish a resolution we all could live with would come about.

Agreed. It's the civilians who always get it the worse. That's been true for at least a hundred years now. Plenty of time for any fool who prefers war to negotiation to have learned it. You call for war, you might as well be calling for civilian deaths.

 

[CMike]

I presume you are a big fan of Hitler then...nothing more to say.

Based on the quote, the father's and mother's that sent their children willingly to join the Hitler youth are complicit on the atrocities that they committed.

That's exactly what the quote is saying.

Those parents that send their children to Hamas training camps are complicit in their children's terrorist actions. In fact, in some ways more complicit since they made them who they are.

 

[CMike]

I do not respond to all comments made by him or anyone else. If I tried, there wouldn't been enough time in a day to do as such. I think each of us can remember times when we posted something that could be viewed as over-the-top, and CMike, you, and I are no exceptions to this rule.

So far I stand by all my comments.

 

[CMike]

I am trying very hard to have a little balanced opinion on this whole conflict, but statements like these are making it damn near impossible.

I stand by them.

 

[ametist]

during the time of arafat they had most of negotiations but you can see many posts here from supporters of israel's actions, trying to degrade efforts of him through his property.
any authority palestian will try to weild will be considered terrorist or corrupt to keep them away from table in an international arena so that society will get suffocated, some will flee, remaining out of oppresion fall into extremism and more attacks will be justified easily. so hamas is saying dont leave territory and preferring to die under fire untill recognized for table.