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Palestinians under attack

Levite

Levite

Higher and Higher
CMike said:
Where did they call him a son of a whore exactly? I must have missed it.
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There is a medieval collection of anti-Christian polemic, written during some periods of intense Christian oppression of Jews, which connect Jesus with the story of Ben Pandera in the Gemara, who was indeed the son of a whore.

But of course, no one outside of the most radical extremist ultra-right-wing fringe has subscribed to any kind of polemic like that in hundreds of years.

But why trip up a perfectly good anti-Semitic insult with facts...?
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
CMike said:
Where did they call him a son of a whore exactly? I must have missed it.
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I said it is the Jews viewpoint about Jesus that he was a lair and son of a whore whereas in the song Jesus name was used as an evidence that Jews had lived in Palestine 2000 years ago.

This is a stupid logic as to say if my ancestors lived in one place thousands of years ago then i have the right to expel and displace the native ones.

Imagine the black Americans wanted to establish their new state in Africa because their ancestors had lived their and then forcing the natives to leave their homes
 
xkatz

xkatz

Well-Known Member
FearGod said:
I said it is the Jews viewpoint about Jesus that he was a lair and son of a whore whereas in the song Jesus name was used as an evidence that Jews had lived in Palestine 2000 years ago.
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1) Jesus was indeed a Jew
2) Jews don't have a singular opinion on Jesus, except that he was neither a prophet nor HaMoshiach, let alone G-d. That doesn't mean he was a bad person or anything of the sort.

Imagine the black Americans wanted to establish their new state in Africa because their ancestors had lived their and then forcing the natives to leave their homes
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Already happened: Liberia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
xkatz said:
1) Jesus was indeed a Jew
2) Jews don't have a singular opinion on Jesus, except that he was neither a prophet nor HaMoshiach, let alone G-d. That doesn't mean he was a bad person or anything of the sort.
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How could you know that he was a Jew ?
John 7:1 "After this Jesus stayed in Galilee; for He could not walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him." His followers were constrained "for fear of the Jews"

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Jesus Was NOT a Jew - pastor James P wickstrom. - YouTube

Read the title written by Gil Student
Jesus In The Talmud

xkatz said:
Already happened: Liberia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Do you think the new comers are justified to kick the natives ?
 
xkatz

xkatz

Well-Known Member
FearGod said:
How could you know that he was a Jew ?
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Well if Jesus isn't a Jew, that poses a problem for his claim to be a prophet and messiah, doesn't it? ;)


Do you think the new comers are justified to kick the natives ?
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No. How dare those Arab Muslims steal land from the Byzantine Romans who took the land from the Jews?!?! :rolleyes:
 
xkatz

xkatz

Well-Known Member
FearGod said:
Why it poses a problem ?
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Because in the 'New Testament', the Gospel of Luke has a genealogy which connects Jesus to figures like Abraham, Isaac, and King David. If Jesus wasn't Jewish in any way whatsoever he couldn't have possibly been a descendant of these people. Without the connection, Christians (nor Jesus) wouldn't even be able to claim he was HaMoshiach.



They didn't expel the natives.
Did Muslims expel the Spaniards from their lands ?
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Jewish Israelis didn't either. 1/5 of Israel is Arab (who are legal citizens with full rights). What gave the Arab Muslims the right to take the land in the first place anyways?
 
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