Palestinians under attack

[metis]

Israel should offer some form of compensation to those whose who can prove they had property which they owned taken in the '48 or '67 wars.

When the U.N. partitioned Palestine into Jordan and Israel, Palestinians who were displaced were to be compensated for their loss whereas they could purchase land and/or homes elsewhere, and the U.S. agreed to finance that. However, when the neighboring states rejected the agreement and attacked Israel, the offer was negated.

 

[xkatz]

That confirms that Palestine wasn't for the Jews since the official language wasn't Hebrew but Aramaic and in which the Jews were forced to learn it in order to communicate with the natives of the people of Palestine who spoke Aramaic and some Greek.

There were 3 languages spoken which were Hebrew ,Aramaic and Greek, but as you point out that Aramaic was used more than Hebrew and i think that tells it all.

The reason Aramaic became a commonly spoken language was because it was the lingua franca of the Assyrian and Babylonian empires, much like how French became an important language in parts of Africa b/c of colonialism. The original Aramaic speakers were the Assyrians who came from modern day Iraq. Jews used Aramaic more at that time because it would be easier to communicate with non-Jews, who also knew Aramaic. Also the idea of an official language is a much more recent concept, so that doesn't even make sense.

Is it that hard to understand ?
Jesus didn't walk in their lands which means that the place which he lived in wasn't for the Jews otherwise his life will be in risk.

The Galilee was separated as a province from Judea by the Romans. It doesn't mean that there weren't Jews in the region, they just weren't under the Herodian client-kings.

 

[FearGod]

The reason Aramaic became a commonly spoken language was because it was the lingua franca of the Assyrian and Babylonian empires, much like how French became an important language in parts of Africa b/c of colonialism. The original Aramaic speakers were the Assyrians who came from modern day Iraq. Jews used Aramaic more at that time because it would be easier to communicate with non-Jews, who also knew Aramaic. Also the idea of an official language is a much more recent concept, so that doesn't even make sense.

It was the Roman empire and not the Assyrian empire, the Jews were expecting the savior to be of their sheep to save them from the Romans.

John 10:26 But you don't believe, because you are not of my sheep, as I told you

The Galilee was separated as a province from Judea by the Romans. It doesn't mean that there weren't Jews in the region, they just weren't under the Herodian client-kings.

It means that Jesus was living within his family and his supporters in a place that doesn't belong to the Jews.

Deny as you wish but the fact is clear, Jesus wasn't a Jew and the Jews hated Jesus and his supporters.

 

[xkatz]

It was the Roman empire and not the Assyrian empire, the Jews were expecting the savior to be of their sheep to save them from the Romans.

Well the Romans didn't conquer the until the 1st century BCE, so it would make sense that many people would still speak Aramaic in the time of Jesus.

John 10:26 But you don't believe, because you are not of my sheep, as I told you

The Gospel of John will say that because John (or whoever you believe wrote it), was someone who wanted to differentiate Christianity from Judaism. It doesn't mean that they weren't Jewish but the writer identified their religion as Christianity, not Judaism.

It means that Jesus was living within his family and his supporters in a place that doesn't belong to the Jews.

Deny as you wish but the fact is clear, Jesus wasn't a Jew and the Jews hated Jesus and his supporters.

Well the VAST MAJORITY of Biblical scholars and secular historians disagree with your conclusion so the proof of burden falls on you.

 

[metis]

Xkatz, you have to realize that what you are encountering with the likes of FearGod is a position that both the Jewish and Christian scriptures are unreliable because they've supposedly been "corrupted" but their Qur'an is absolutely reliable. Of course, they cannot provide any evidence whatsoever for these allegations, but that doesn't stop them.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

From the Wikipedia entry on Textual Criticism and Qur’ān Manuscripts:

The book is an application of "reasoned eclecticism" to a small portion of the Quran: 14:35–41.[1][Quran 14:35–41] The book contains four parts: 1) chapters one and two covering the introduction and photographs and descriptions of the manuscripts used; 2) chapters three through eight describing the textual variants in the manuscripts; 3) chapters nine through eleven which includes comparisons of these variants with Islamic records of variants, and discussing possible causes of the variants, including unintentional mistakes in oral transmission or intentional changes; 4) a concluding, twelfth chapter.

Small concludes that a critical text of the Quran cannot currently be constructed. He says, "...the available sources do not provide the necessary information for reconstructing the original text of the Qur’ān from the time of Muhammad. Neither do they yet provide the necessary information for reconstructing the text from the time immediately after Muhammad's death until the first official edition of the Qur’ān attributed to have been ordered by the Caliph ‘Uthmān".[2] Fred Donner interprets Small's work as showing "that there was a very early attempt to establish a uniform consonantal text of the Qurʾān from what was probably a wider and more varied group of related texts in early transmission. [...] After the creation of this standardized canonical text, earlier authoritative texts were suppressed, and all extant manuscripts—despite their numerous variants—seem to date to a time after this standard consonantal text was established."[3] Donner also says though that Small's conclusions are tentative, because analogous work on larger passages of the Quran may give different results.[4]

 

[FearGod]

Xkatz, you have to realize that what you are encountering with the likes of FearGod is a position that both the Jewish and Christian scriptures are unreliable because they've supposedly been "corrupted" but their Qur'an is absolutely reliable. Of course, they cannot provide any evidence whatsoever for these allegations, but that doesn't stop them.

Didn't you see that i was quoting from the bible.

 

[metis]

Didn't you see that i was quoting from the bible.

Ya know, you hit yourself in the head so many times that I do believe it's caused some serious problems with you.

One thing that's been pointed out to you many times but which you ignore just to post more nonsense is that scriptures need to be interpreted, and it was explained to you why you've been assuming interpretations that either made no sense or were conjectural at best and had no supporting evidence.

 

[Matemkar]

Spoiler: graphics

http://www.onbangladesh.org/blog/bloggeruploadedimage/nilshalu/1405328361.jpg

We shall live to tell the stories of war crimes in Gaza | The Electronic Intifada

so sad.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I just love whitespace.

 

[Avi1001]

This is very sad to see. Terrorists are using the internet and communications better than the Israeli's.

 

[Matemkar]

"Israel attacks my university — with bombs and lies"

Israel attacks my university -- with bombs and lies | The Electronic Intifada

 

[farouk]

This is very sad to see. Terrorists are using the internet and communications better than the Israeli's.

You must be refering to the terrorist of 1948 that ethnically cleansed Jaffa of Palestinians and murdered women and children in streets.Yes its the same terrorist that looted their homes and built a terrorist state on stolen property.
Futher its the same terrorist that are putting the so called Feiglin plan in action.
Note Palestinians will definately forgive but through the internet they will never forget.

 

[Avi1001]

You must be refering to the terrorist of 1948 that ethnically cleansed Jaffa of Palestinians and murdered women and children in streets.Yes its the same terrorist that looted their homes and built a terrorist state on stolen property.
Futher its the same terrorist that are putting the so called Feiglin plan in action.
Note Palestinians will definately forgive but through the internet they will never forget.

Nice.

Question-is there such a thing as a moderate Muslim ?

Also, are you allowed to say what country you live in...or are you afraid of your government ?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Jaffa 1948 was indeed a travesty.

 

[beenie]

Question-is there such a thing as a moderate Muslim ?

Absolutely. Why wouldn't there be such a thing?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Question-is there such a thing as a moderate Muslim ?

Absolutely. Why wouldn't there be such a thing?

To ask "is there such a thing as a moderate Muslim" strikes me as outrageous.

 

[CMike]

Spoiler: graphics

http://www.onbangladesh.org/blog/bloggeruploadedimage/nilshalu/1405328361.jpg

We shall live to tell the stories of war crimes in Gaza | The Electronic Intifada

so sad.

That's unless Hamas kills all of them.

 

[CMike]

You must be refering to the terrorist of 1948 that ethnically cleansed Jaffa of Palestinians and murdered women and children in streets.Yes its the same terrorist that looted their homes and built a terrorist state on stolen property.
Futher its the same terrorist that are putting the so called Feiglin plan in action.
Note Palestinians will definately forgive but through the internet they will never forget.

Sounds like you must be hallucinating.

Those events never occurred.

 

[CMike]

To ask "is there such a thing as a moderate Muslim" strikes me as outrageous.

How about one that won't be murdered if he speaks?