dantech
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Those exist, just not in the middle east...
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Palestinians under attack
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Those exist, just not in the middle east...
Sounds like another one of those "multiple versions" of an event.
farouk
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dantech
Well-Known Member
BBC News - Caution needed with Gaza casualty figures
To the famous "Israel is targeting civilians" question:
To the famous "Israel is targeting civilians" question:
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
Because, of course, the New York Times is completely fair and bias. lol.
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^Adolescent selection bias run amok. Time for the ignore list.
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dantech
Well-Known Member
The UN however, which gets its numbers directly from Hamas operations.... They are the fair, unbiased ones... Right?
farouk
Active Member
So according to these media outlets all those between the ages of 20 to 29 could have been militants.The entire article is based on nothing but conjecture.
farouk
Active Member
Here is list of names of 190 people murdered on the 26th July.
May their souls rest in peace.
May their souls rest in peace.
- Husam Abdul-Ghani Yassin, 17, Gaza.
- Ismael Abdul-Qader al-Kojok, 54, Gaza.
- Mohammad Said Hosni as-Saqqa, 20, Gaza.
- Islam Ibrahim an-Naji, 19. Gaza.
- Mohammad Ahmad Matar al-Abadla, 32, Gaza.
- Yosra Salem Hasan al-Breem, 56, Gaza.
- Mohammad Khalil Mohammad al-Breem, Gaza.
- Ibrahim Salman Qabalan, 34.
- Mohammad Ahmad Abu Wadia, 19, Gaza.
- Abdullah Ayesh Salam Ermeilat, 39, Deir al-Balah.
- Eman Hasan ar-Roqab, Khan Younis.
- Bara' Mahmoud ar-Roqab, 11, Khan Younis.
- Khalil Mohammad an-Najjar, 59, Khan Younis.
- Jona an-Najjar, Khan Younis.
- Ekhlas Najjar, Khan Younis.
- Amna an-Najjar, Khan Younis.
- Majed Sameer an-Najjar, 19, Khan Younis.
- Ghalia Mohammed an-Najjar, 56, Khan Younis.
- Ahmad Khaled Mohammad an-Najjar,14, Khan Younis.
- Eman Salah Mahmoud an-Najjar, 23, Khan Younis.
- Sumayya Harb Yousef an-Najjar, 50, Khan Younis.
- Kifah Samir Hasan an-Najjar 23, Khan Younis.
- Rawan Khaled Mohammad an-Najjar, 17, Khan Younis.
- Husam Hussein an-Najjar, 7, Khan Younis.
- Samir Hussein an-Najjar, 2, Khan Younis.
- Moataz Hussein Samir an-Najjar, 6, Khan Younis.
- Ulfat Hussein Samir an-Najjar, 4, Khan Younis. (sister of Samir and Moataz)
- Ikhlas Sameer Hussein Abu Shahla, 30, Khan Younis.
- Amir Hammoudeh Khaled Abu Shahla, 3, Khan Younis.
- Amira Hammoudeh Khaled Abu Shahla, 1, Khan Younis.
- Islam Hammoudeh Abu Shahla, 4, Khan Younis.
- Bassam Khaled Abu Shahla, 44, Khan Younis.
- Riham Fayez al-Breem, 19
- Fadel At-Tawaneh, Gaza City.
- Arafat Salem Abu Oweily, 27, Central District.
- Abdul-Rahman Ouda at-Tilbani, Central District.
- Nidal Ahmad 'Issa Abu al-'Asal, 27, Rafah.
- Salim Salaam Abu ath-Thoum, 87, Rafah.
- Naim Abdul Aziz Abu Zaher, 36, Deir al-Balah
- Abdul-Hamid Mohammad Abdul-Hamid Al-Maghrabi, 31.
- Abdul-Majeed Abdullah Abdul-Majeed al-Aady, 36.
- Hamad Mohammad Ala Sheikh Salim, 30.
- Mohammad Rafiq Said al-Ayeer, 30.
- Amro Abdul-Hakim as-Sheikh Khalil, 25.
- Shadi Kamal Ramadan Yassin, 22.
- Mohammad Issam Deeb Abu Dalfa, 25.
- Walid Said Nassr al-Ijlah, 7.
- Osama Issam Fawzi Azzam, 23.
- Abdullah Ibrahim Abdullah Abu Leila, 51.
- Sami Fathi al-Ar-Eir, 49. .
- Fathi Sami Fathi al-Ar-Eir, 20.
- Abdul-Karim Ali Abu Shanab, 40, Deir al-Balah.
- Aziza Atiyeh Mohammad Abu Shanab, 77, Deir al-Balah.
- Ahmad Walid Nasrallah Samour, Khan Younis.
- Hasan Abdullah Mustafa al-Athanna, 59.
- Hasan Zaki Hasan at-Tahrawy, 23.
- Omar Ismail Ali Quzaat, 18. .
- Rami Faisal Matar as-Shishi, 31. .
- Mohammad Abdul Hamid.
- Ghassan Yousef Salem Abu Dabakh, Central District .
- Khadra Ibrahim Salman Abu Bleimy, 55 .
- Nour Mohammad Salameh Abu Dbagh, 13.
- Ahmad Ramzi Mohammad Abu Qadoos, 13.
- Maisara Anwar Suleiman dar-Azzeen, 6.
- Mohammad Anwar Suleiman dar-Azzeen, 13.
- Mohammad Abdul-Hamid Mohammad Shaat, 29.
- Raja Hamad Mohammad ad-Daghme, 36.
- Sami Abdullah Ahmad Judeh, 18.
- Husam Abdul-Atif Raady, 42.
- Mohammad Ibrahim Sobhi al-Arheir, 30.
- Wala Mohammad Ali al-Qayedh, 15.
- Isam Mohammad Saleh Shamaly, 29.
- Mohammad Abdul-Nassar Ali Abu Zeina, 20.
- Mosab Salah al-Aab Abu al-Aata, 20.
- Ibrahim Aish Abed Abu Ghneimah, 27.
- Ismail Aish Abed Abu Ghneimah, 24.
- Mohammad Ahmad Khaled Hassouneh, Rafah.
- Mazin Adnan Salman Abdin, 25, Khan Younis.
- Salah Eshtewy Ibrahim Adbin, 42, Khan Younis.
- Mohammed Salameh Mohammed Abu Khousa, 75, northern Gaza (body pulled from rubble).
- Salman Mohammed Ahmed Sama'na, 30, northern Gaza (body pulled from rubble).
- Do'a' Sani Ibrahim Sama'na, 11, northern Gaza (body pulled from rubble).
- Mohammed Sa'id Sha'ban Baba, 40, northern Gaza (body pulled from rubble).
- Ikram Ahmed Tawfiq al-Shanbari, 23, Beit Hanoun (body pulled from rubble).
- Sami Fathi Ahmed al-'Ar'ir, 50, Gaza City (body pulled from rubble).
- Mohammed Rafiq Sa'id al-'Ar'ir, 30, Gaza City (body pulled from rubble).
- Hassan Fathi Ahmad al-'Ar'ir, 39, Gaza City (body pulled from rubble).
- 'Abdul Karim Fathi Ahmed al-'Ar'ir, 34, Gaza City (body pulled from rubble).
- Fathi Sami Fathi al-'Ar'ir, 20, Gaza City (body pulled from rubble).
- Khaled Yousef Mohammed Badwan, 48, Gaza City (body pulled from rubble).
- Azmi Khaled Yousef Badwan, 16, Gaza City (body pulled from rubble).
- 'Abdul Rahman Ziad Hassan Abu Hain, 28, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Mohammed 'Essam Dib Abu Balta, 28, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Mahmoud Ra'ed Mahmoud al-'Eish, 23, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Fadi 'Abdul Qader 'Abdul Malek Habib, 31, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Farid Abdul-Khader Abdul-Malik Habib, 38, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Adham Majed Yousef Dhaher, 18, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Mohammad Mahmoud Rajab Hajjaj, 32, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Mohammad Ahmed Kamel Abu al-'Ata, 32, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Mohammad Mahmoud Sa'id Abu al-'Ata, 28, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Mohammed Riad Sha'ban Shabet, 25, at-Tuffah.
- Hisham Abdul-Karim Ahmad Abu Mour, Rafah.
- Mohammad Ibrahim Ahmad az-Zweidi, 30, Beit Lahia.
- Ala' Maher Juma' Tamtish, 19, Beit Lahia.
- Abdul-Jawad Ali Abul-Jawad Al-Houm.
- Ehab Sa'dy Mohammad Nassr, 22.
- Mohammad Abdullah Hussein al-Jawajri.
- Wisam Sofyan Omar al-Kilani, 27.
- A'ed Mahmoud Ahmad al-Bura'i, 29, medic, Beit Hanoun.
- Munther Talal Abdul-Karim Nassar, 33, northern Gaza.
- Tamer Talal Abdul-Karim Nassar, 24.
- Ala' Abdul-Rahman Mohammad Nassar, 25, northern Gaza.
- Taher Ismail Abdul-Rahman Nassar, 18, northern Gaza.
- Sharif Rafiq Mohammad al-Hamdin, 26, Gaza City.
- Ala' Khaled Najib al-Yaziji, 21, Gaza City.
- Jihad Mahmoud Hamed al-Hilu, 59, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Siham 'Ata al-Hilu, 57, Sheja'eyya(body pulled from rubble).
- Mohammad Jihad Mahmoud al-Hilu, 29, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Tahreer Jihad Mahmoud al-Hilu, 20, Sheja'eyya(body pulled from rubble).
- Najiya Jihad Mahmoud al-Hilu, 15, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Ahmad Jihad Mahmoud al-Hilu, 27, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Hidaya Talal al-Hilu, 25, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Maram Ahmad Jihad al-Hilu, 2, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Abdul-Kareem Ahmad Jihad al-Hilu, 1, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Karam Ahmad Jihad al-Hilu, 5 months, Sheja'eyya (body pulled from rubble).
- Ayman Anwar Salem Burai'em 39, central Gaza (died of earlier wounds)
- Suleiman Zaki 'Abdul Mawla al-Dardissi, 27, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Ahmad Shawqi Mohammad Sa'ada, 37, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Mohammed Ibrahim Hamdan Abu T'aima, 25, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Ra'ed Khalil Hamdan Abu T'aima, 33, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Mamdouh Mallahi Suleiman Abu Naja, 24, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Ayman Akram Ismail al-Ghalban, 22, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Jihad Naji Abu 'Aamer, 22, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Rabah Rashed Mosallam Fayad, 40, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Fadi Mahmoud Sa'd al-Masri, 22, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Eyad Yousef al-Sadi, 24, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Salem Mustafa al-Hadhidi, 18, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Wassim Nasser 'Abdu Shurrab, 22, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- 'Ali Mohammed 'Ali al-Astal, 32, Khan Younis.(body pulled from rubble).
- Fawzi Ahmad Abu Amsha, 67.
- Na'ma Mohammad Hussein Abu Amsha, 64.
- Wassim Salah Abu Riziq Al-Masri.
- Saed Munir Shida Abu Khater, 19.
- Amar Mustafa Rashid Hamdouna, 22.
- Tariq Mohammad Moehsin al-Ajrami, 25.
- Hamza Mazin Khalil Madhi, 23.
- Ismail Younis Abdullah Khalla, 21.
- Abdul-Rahman Yusef Ahmad Saadat, 24.
- Khaled Abdullah Mahmoud Adwan, 30.
- Osama Mohammad Nassr al-Kafarneh, 50.
- Khaled 'Ata Mohammad Abu Shehadeh, 23.
- Hani 'Adel Mohammad Abu Hashish, 23.
- Mohammad Ahmad Abu Dawabe', 19.
- Mohammad Ali Khalil Saidam, 17.
- Ibrahim Mohammad Awad Barak, 19.
- Bilal Bassam Salem al-Masri, 21.
- Anwar Abdul-Khader Hasan Younis, 2.
- Arafat Salem Ahmad Abu Oweily, 27.
- Mohammad Fayez Sha'ban al-Sharif, 23.
- Mahmoud al-Sharif, 24, Central District
- Hossam Mohammad Suleiman Abu Ghneifi, 18.
- Ghassan Taher Suleiman Abu Kamil, 25.
- Ismail Abdul-Jawad Ismail Abu Sa'ada, 26.
- Mahmoud Riyadh Abdul-Khader Miq'dad, 22.
- Mazin Yusef Suleiman Abu Joerban, 31.
- Shaker Ahmad Shaker al-Jamal, 46.
- Faisal Fa'eq al-At-Toame, 31.
- Hazem Yusef Abdul-Rahman al-Moebid, 34.
- Abdullah Nabil Abdul-Khader al-Batsh, 21.
- Sharif Jalal Hasan al-Karshali, 27.
- Mohammad Arafat Saleh Khalil al-Ghamare, 33.
- Abdul-Raziq Shoeban Abed Ommar, 27.
- Amjad Nahedh Ala' al-Sarefy, 22.
- Adham Majed Yousef Daher, 18.
- Hamza Hassan Mahmoud Halas, 25.
- Ahmad Mousa Ahmad Ahl, 75.
- Mohammad Hussein Hasan al-Nasri.
- Mahmoud Husam Mohammad Mansour, 22.
- Mosab Mustafa Rajeb Ali, 20.
- Mo'amin Mustafa Mahmoud al-Kasha.
- Eyas Ahmad Mohammad Abu Ouda, 28.
- Nidal Khaled Mohammad Khalil, 20.
- Nader Majdi Abdul-Rahman Qassim, 30.
- Eman Ibrahim Suleiman al-Ghandour.
- Salmad Hamad Salmad al-Amour, 32.
- Rifat Nabil Ramadan Oweida, 27.
- Ashraf Qassim Mansour Wafi, 25.
- Baha Rafiq Oweida, 36.
- Ahmad Barham Oleiman Abu Daqqa
- Taysir Mohammad Aish an-Najjar
dantech
Well-Known Member
May the souls of all the innocent people who lost their lives to ISIS, HAMAS, IDF, or anyone else in the world rest in peace. My condolences to all their families and loved ones.
I can not come close to a true figure, nor can I confirm whether these people actually exist, are dead, are alive. I can't confirm their ages, or the names, simply because I don't have access to that sort of information.
Assuming they are all real names, are all really dead, and all died because of IDF...
Is it safe to say that the majority of those were civilians? Yes. I can admit that.
Is it fair to assume that Israel was purposely targeting these civilians? No, it's not.
Is it fair to put all the blame on Israel's defense force, while Hamas is probably as much to blame for the deaths of civilians as the ones shooting at them? No, it's not. Especially so when Hamas are the leaders and are supposed to be dedicated to protecting them.
To me, there's one thing that should really stand out... How does the leader of a nation claim victory in a war where he lost even 1 civilian, not to mention what is claimed to be 1800+ civilians?
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
And you can place them all at the feet of the Hamas... who are the reason they are no more...
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
To be honest I think the Israeli return fire probably helped a bit, right? I mean. They didn't all drop down dead from fright, did they?
CMike
Well-Known Member
Matemkar
Active Member
Chomsky lost his mind years ago. He used to be a great thinker, now he's a maniac.
CMike
Well-Known Member
And we should care what he says because? :sarcastic
Avi1001
reform Jew humanist liberal feminist entrepreneur
Noam Chomsky is a leading atheist thinker. I highly value his opinions.
CMike
Well-Known Member
I don't.
And I wouldn't consider him a thinker.
I would consider him mentally retarded and a terrorist supporter.
Pathetic nonsense.