Pascal's Wager. Dawkins with God.

[ChristineM]

If there is no hell, there is no bottom of hell. That is it: hell has no bottom. My favorite song:

So no proof then, fair enough.

Good to see you back

 

[questfortruth]

So no proof then, fair enough.

Good to see you back

With pleasure, Christine M. Proof of Christian God is the proof of hell and heaven. I have put many efforts in that direction:
Proof of God is Proof of Science

 

[ChristineM]

With pleasure, Christine M. Proof of Christian God is the proof of hell and heaven. I have put many efforts in that direction:
Proof of God is Proof of Science

Doesn't work like that.
Peer review and validation is what counts. We know science works, you are using it right now. I can't say the same of god which is a belief and nothing more

 

[Altfish]

Abstract:
An unbeliever is more likely to go to hell than someone who belongs to any religion or belief.

Problem:
Atheists don't believe in Hell, so they are not worried about the threat.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Problem:
Atheists don't believe in Hell, so they are not worried about the threat.

I'm not an atheist, but I don't believe in hell either.

 

[Revoltingest]

Doesn't work like that.
Peer review and validation is what counts.

Even more important are evidence & cogent reasoning.
Both are lacking.
What peer would waste time reviewing such drivel, eh.

 

[questfortruth]

We know science works

A human does not follow in detail the methodological naturalism (scientific method), so the accumulation of posts, which address religion in positive way, could trigger the acceptance of theism. The accumulation of posts, which criticize religion could trigger the acceptance of atheism. It is a cosmic "game of love".

 

[ChristineM]

A human does not follow in detail the methodological naturalism (scientific method), so the accumulation of posts, which address religion in positive way, could trigger the acceptance of theism. The accumulation of posts, which criticize religion could trigger the acceptance of atheism. It is a cosmic "game of love".

Nope, it's just a case of critical thinking vs mythology

 

[questfortruth]

vs mythology

 

[questfortruth]

critical thinking

Universe surrenders to dreamers, not critical thinkers. The critical thinking is more of defense than of exploration.

 

[questfortruth]

critical thinking

 

[ChristineM]

Universe surrenders to dreamers, not critical thinkers. The critical thinking is more of defense than of exploration.

There is no point in banging head against brick wall.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Have you actually watched this video, or did you just randomly post it because you thought its title supports your argument?

I'm curious to know how much you know about the UFO/UAP/USO phenomenon.

 

[questfortruth]

There is no point in banging head against brick wall.

In some case it has a point. If you have lost some ability to work, and government says, that invalids must go to work, you has to go to the wall and hope for the best: "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you." Matthew 7:7. The police could come and take you to the hospital, if you would survive the knocking. In such a way, the God's love could be verified.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

The classic response to [Pascal's] wager is to ask what is the nature of this god, if it does exist?

To elaborate further on that, some of the commoner refutations include:

1. Assuming that a god or gods exist, you may have the wrong god and either be punished for not worshiping to correct one or miss out on the rewards that belief in the right god might confer.

2. Many people are beyond being able to believe something because they want it to be the case. Believing in Pascal's god isn't an option for them.

3. Believing in a nonexistent god is not necessarily without cost even if there are no gods. Such beliefs can make one anti-intellectual, cause one to value faith over reason, fill one's head with harmful bigotries, and cost thousands of hours and dollars reading holy books, going to church services, and tithing.

In Monty Hall problem probability has been changed in time because a process has gone: door opening.

You just undermined your claim of being a math genius.

 

[questfortruth]

how much you know about the UFO/UAP/USO phenomenon.

I have put my thoughts into a book, and posted it at Amazon, author Dmitri Martila "Simplest explanation of Dark Matter and Dark Energy".
It is my original thoughts, no co-authors. I am a pioneer. UFO is made of Virtual Matter, Dark Matter is a particular case of Virtual Matter.

 

[Watchmen]

Any thing takes space. So, any thing curves the space. So, even if all interactions are switched off, the gravity is there. So, even God acts through gravity on our Universe. It is Dark Energy. The Paradise lefts impact on our Universe too, it is Dark Matter. Dark Energy and Dark Matter are terms from Wikipedia.

Ok, so no. That’s what I thought.

 

[questfortruth]

Believing in a nonexistent god is not necessarily without cost

That is why my activity to prove God is needed, for example:
Proof of God is Proof of Science
This is proof that K (the value in the current post) is not 100 %.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I have put my thoughts into a book, and posted it at Amazon, author Dmitri Martila "Simplest explanation of Dark Matter and Dark Energy".
It is my original thoughts, no co-authors. I am a pioneer. UFO is made of Virtual Matter, Dark Matter is a particular case of Virtual Matter.

I'm not interested in reading your book or even you promoting it. I asked you if you watched the video you posted. You didn't answer me, so I can only assume that you haven't. If you explained your knowledge of the UFO/UAP/USO phenomenon in your book, then surely you can explain it in this thread.

 

[questfortruth]

your knowledge of the UFO/UAP/USO phenomenon

I have seen an UAP in couple meters from me. It took form of an angel.