Pastafarianism

[The Enlightened One]

Although FSM-ism was just a jab at secularity, I feel that in due time that this phenomenon could go beyond viral and become a legitimate religion for followers of intelligent-design.
What are your thoughts on Pastafarianism? How about the Invisible Pink Unicorn? The latter being a direct hit towards theism, it could still hold conceptual meaning for athiests...

 

[tarasan]

Although FSM-ism was just a jab at secularity, I feel that in due time that this phenomenon could go beyond viral and become a legitimate religion for followers of intelligent-design.
What are your thoughts on Pastafarianism? How about the Invisible Pink Unicorn? The latter being a direct hit towards theism, it could still hold conceptual meaning for athiests...

well considering that the invisible pink unicorn is laughed at by most thiests, and really is only taken seriously on the popular level, I believe it will probably die out.

Pastafarianism though as really taken off, there are people who campain under its flag and the concept has really grown so i think it most certainly has promise.

 

[Valjean]

Pastafarianism and ID? Isn't Pastafarianism sort of a dig at Christian supporters of ID?

 

[tarasan]

Pastafarianism and ID? Isn't Pastafarianism sort of a dig at Christian supporters of ID?

yeah but again its a pretty bad one, IDers dont hold ot any specific God so for them labeling it at all isnt what its all about heck for all teh know it could a flying spegetti monster, the only reason its popular is because of the wonders of hte internet.

 

[The Enlightened One]

Pastafarianism and ID? Isn't Pastafarianism sort of a dig at Christian supporters of ID?

In a way, yes. That was the original intent. Bobby Henderson created it in protest to the Kansas State board of education's decision to include the teaching of ID alongside evolution in science classes. It was insanely intollerant but well put together. He argued that FSM-ism should be alotted equal time in the classroom, with the hopes of overturning their decision. I for one agree with what he did, as I believe that religion has no place in a science class.

 

[The Enlightened One]

yeah but again its a pretty bad one, IDers dont hold ot any specific God so for them labeling it at all isnt what its all about heck for all teh know it could a flying spegetti monster, the only reason its popular is because of the wonders of hte internet.

The board was predominantly christian, and the students that originally suggested it were christian.
I think that they were just generally opposed to the theory of evolution.

 

[The Enlightened One]

...the only reason its popular is because of the wonders of hte internet.

Very true. I don't think that it would have spread as rapidly(if it would of even spread at all) if it wasn't for the internet. I have an inkling that it will someday contend with some of the major world religions.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

yeah but again its a pretty bad one, IDers dont hold ot any specific God so for them labeling it at all isnt what its all about heck for all teh know it could a flying spegetti monster, the only reason its popular is because of the wonders of hte internet.

Oh, come on. Everybody always knew that the term "intelligent designer" was always meant to refer to the Christian god, despite the nudge-nudge, wink-wink game that ID proponents played to try to convince people that teaching ID to kids in public schools wasn't a bald-faced violation of the legal separation of church and state.

Edit: in any case, the FSM was effective at pointing out that if you open the doors to teaching any sort of garbage in a science classroom without regard to whether it has scientific merit, then you can't keep out the really crazy stuff either.

 

[tarasan]

The board was predominantly christian, and the students that originally suggested it were christian.
I think that they were just generally opposed to the theory of evolution.

Indeed but Iders dont care which God it is that something they strictly adhere too, to them a spegetti monster is just as acceptable as yahweh, to them its the sceince of creationism not which God it is.

of course when i say science i mean that loosly

 

[tarasan]

Oh, come on. Everybody always knew that the term "intelligent designer" was always meant to refer to the Christian god, despite the nudge-nudge, wink-wink game that ID proponents played to try to convince people that teaching ID to kids in public schools wasn't a bald-faced violation of the legal separation of church and state.

look im just going by what they say and adhere too mate ok, to them it could be any God ANY!! to them a god made of pasta and a major world religion are the same thats why creationist take it as a joke cause you guys are only making yourself look like ***** whenever you insult them over something like that.

 

[The Enlightened One]

Wow, this topic is really starting to take off. Not unexpected though.
What do you guys think about literal adherants to FSM-ism?(The people that have trully adopted the FSM as their diety, and believe that HE the FSM exists?) Since it is only 5 years old, I consider it lunacy for some, creative interpretation for others...

 

[tarasan]

Wow, this topic is really starting to take off. Not unexpected though.
What do you guys think about literal adherants to FSM-ism?(The people that have trully adopted the FSM as their diety, and believe that HE the FSM exists?) Since it is only 5 years old, I consider it lunacy for some, creative interpretation for others...

Literal? maybe if we leave it a while but most certianly not at this early stage I mean its still a well know fact that it was made up.

 

[The Enlightened One]

Literal? maybe if we leave it a while but most certianly not at this early stage I mean its still a well know fact that it was made up.

Literal. I've ran across a few people(not many, mind you) that are die-hard followers. One of them even went as far as saying that the FSM gave Mr. Henderson the ideas because humans were straying FAR away from the truth. This is one of the people that fall into the category of lunacy. Others see the FSM as a personal diety that they can more easily adhere to rather than any of the 'mainstream' gods.
I can see the lines being blurred over the next century, and small sects going 'black-belt' with the belief. If only the details of who created it were unknown lol...

 

[tarasan]

Literal. I've ran across a few people(not many, mind you) that are die-hard followers. One of them even went as far as saying that the FSM gave Mr. Henderson the ideas because humans were straying FAR away from the truth. This is one of the people that fall into the category of lunacy. Others see the FSM as a personal diety that they can more easily adhere to rather than any of the 'mainstream' gods.
I can see the lines being blurred over the next century, and small sects going 'black-belt' with the belief. If only the details of who created it were unknown lol...

erm if what you said is true then yeah definately XD

thats slightly scary....

 

[Noaidi]

...I mean its still a well know fact that it was made up.

Tarasan. Do you see what you've done there?!

 

[tarasan]

Tarasan. Do you see what you've done there?!

no but keep going.

 

[The Enlightened One]

erm if what you said is true then yeah definately XD

thats slightly scary....

Lol yep, actually encountered it.
I wouldn't be surprised if the fanaticism won't start with her offspring lol.
As for the perceptional adherants, I can see where they are coming from.

 

[tarasan]

Lol yep, actually encountered it.
I wouldn't be surprised if the fanaticism won't start with her offspring lol.
As for the perceptional adherants, I can see where they are coming from.

ohhh could u elaborate?

 

[The Enlightened One]

ohhh could u elaborate?

I guess it would be kind of like how AA views god. They see god as one's 'higher-power' and for them to personify their god to something that they are comfortable with. Many people in AA will deny this, of course, but I've seen it referenced many times.

Some people have a hard time grasping a god that shares NONE of their personality or moralities. By personifying their diety, they feel closer and after some time they forget that it was themselves that gave their god the qualities that it possesses.

Why anybody would want to relate to a flying mass of pasta is beyond me, but hey, who am I to judge lol.

 

[Willamena]

Literal. I've ran across a few people(not many, mind you) that are die-hard followers. One of them even went as far as saying that the FSM gave Mr. Henderson the ideas because humans were straying FAR away from the truth. This is one of the people that fall into the category of lunacy. Others see the FSM as a personal diety that they can more easily adhere to rather than any of the 'mainstream' gods.
I can see the lines being blurred over the next century, and small sects going 'black-belt' with the belief. If only the details of who created it were unknown lol...

I suspect that as soon as you turned your back, they were laughing their heads off.